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Re: Learning my routes

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:53 pm

Waze does not learn routes. It learns destinations. There is no way to "train" Waze to learn routes. The option in settings is misnamed. We've asked Waze to rename it for... oh, well about a year? At least 9 months.
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Re: Learning my routes

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:11 pm

reflon wrote:You cannot cross that median but sometimes it will tell you to. So as you can see these examples are the reason I say turn restrictions need to be an absolute.

Turn restrictions are pretty hard and fast, but to make them absolute I don't think can be the final answer. Waze works just like real life: there is often no such thing as an absolute. If someone screws up the map and there is literally no other way out of the area you are in, how pissed off would you be if Waze said, "Sorry, I can't give you directions because there is no way out."? Many people would delete it and never look back. One of those turn restrictions is likely wrong, so Waze may give you the route that breaks the turn restriction you literally cannot cross the street for, or it may give another. Because there is no concept (yet) of a u-turn on 2-way segments in Waze, you may end up having to do that. That's why we have brains. Relying on a GPS device to give flawless instructions at all times is what is making us all stupid and unable to think independently. "I can't turn left here? Oh, geez, I guess I'll have to turn right..... Oh, look, I can do a u-turn right here and go back the way I need do." Shazaam!
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Re: Learning my routes

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:35 pm

edEskankus wrote:Back on topic. I'm confused. Waze does or doesn't learn preferred routes? I'm finding it does not. I get options to work, but none of my "shortcuts" are ever incorporated even thought they shave time and distance off of travel time and I use them virtually every commute.

Did you read this thread, like the 2nd post? And you're looking in the list of 3 alternate routes, right?

Depending on distance and defined street types, Waze may not consider certain streets, which is a shortcoming to some, and a great feature for others. Until Waze has accurate data for all segments or possible routes, it may also not make the best decisions. It may think that it's original route for you 1) is still faster because it doesn't have accurate speed data for that route because you keep going your own way, or 2) the street types and route distance are such that those streets/route option gets pruned from the results set.
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Re: Learning my routes

Postby AndyPoms » Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:48 am

txemt wrote:After about 15 tries, Waze "learned" that I can use the back gate (and routinely directs me that way) of my apartment complex. Although my apartment complex has now closed and lock the gate, Waze does route me that way. It choses a private road and street as opposed to the primary street at the front of my complex. So....I don't know.


If the gate is closed 24/7 you can just remove that part of the road from the map...
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Learning my routes

Postby Darthreflon » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:53 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:Waze does not learn routes. It learns destinations. There is no way to "train" Waze to learn routes. The option in settings is misnamed. We've asked Waze to rename it for... oh, well about a year? At least 9 months.


Even tho I know Waze don't learn routes there is a video on YouTube from Waze showing that it does learn your preferred route. Do a search on YouTube for waze tip #3. I think waze needs to take this off of YouTube.
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Learning my routes

Postby Darthreflon » Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:38 pm

xteejx wrote:That will only increase the penalty, it won't stop it.

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They should make it so it is absolute. People put turn restrictions in place for a reason because it is not possible to turn there.
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Postby Darthreflon » Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:54 pm

I'll give a prime example. I'm in the military and there is a road that civilians can drive on that goes right thru the base without having to go thru a checkpoint. That road is Bragg Blvd. There is only one road that crosses this road so traffic can get from one side of post to the other. That road is Honeycutt Rd. If your on Bragg Blvd you cannot turn left or right onto Honeycutt Rd. but if your on Honeycutt Rd. you can go straight or turn right or left onto Bragg Blvd. If you try to turn onto Honeycutt from Bragg then you get met by the MP's and told to turn around. Everything has been good up till this last map update then it started telling me to turn right onto Honeycutt from Bragg all because turn restrictions aren't an absolute and only gives a penalty. The same goes for if you have a road where there is a median but does not meet the requirements to be a split road. You cannot cross that median but sometimes it will tell you to. So as you can see these examples are the reason I say turn restrictions need to be an absolute.
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Re: Learning my routes

Postby edEskankus » Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:31 pm

Back on topic. I'm confused. Waze does or doesn't learn preferred routes? I'm finding it does not. I get options to work, but none of my "shortcuts" are ever incorporated even thought they shave time and distance off of travel time and I use them virtually every commute.
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Re: Learning my routes

Postby edEskankus » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:42 pm

Yes I did read this and many threads on the subject hence my confusion on the "feature" where the client learns my preferred route. No sooner does someone claim that Waze does not learn routes (see post number 2) then you get 10 "are you sure" posts offering alternate explanations. I drive 8 miles to a local rink a few times a week here in the Massachusetts countryside. I'm never offered my direct route, and I've tried the inferior Waze directions a few times. I've checked the streets in the map editor and they all have the correct turn options and appear to all be minor streets. I'll report back when I get to the magic number of 15 trips.
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Re: Learning my routes

Postby floppyrod84 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:04 am

Yeah that's probably map errors in the 1 direction, Essex is really bad for map errors.

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