HOV lane navigation

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Re: HOV lane navigation

Postby mysticcobra » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:58 pm

attheyard wrote: If waze had a separate setting like toll roads for HOV's, the user could turn them on or off as routing options.


I think this is the key. We should have an option to use or not use HOV. I would still like to see, when looking at route choices, this a certain route is Express or HOV or Toll or whatever with some sort of icon or asterisk or warning.
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Re: HOV lane navigation

Postby CBenson » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:23 am

I'm not sure exactly what's happening to the HOT lanes. What happens to the HOV lanes inside Edsall Rd.?
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Re: HOV lane navigation

Postby attheyard » Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:05 am

So do you support changing them now or later?
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Re: HOV lane navigation

Postby CBenson » Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:06 pm

It seems to me that it will be appropriate to mark the HOT lanes as a toll road.
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Re: HOV lane navigation

Postby attheyard » Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:07 pm

Had a thought-the 95 HOT lanes project will change these lanes to toll/HOV lanes. They will still be reversible, but as I stated previously, I don't think this is a practical problem. If you can't get on the road, it's obvious. Waze can handle the re-route if you take regular 95 instead of 95 HOV. If the lanes were changed to toll roads now (which they will be in the future anyway) then the user could choose to turn those routes on or off based on toll road settings. In fact, this would be a good feature for HOV's in general-treat them like toll roads within waze. If waze had a separate setting like toll roads for HOV's, the user could turn them on or off as routing options.
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Re: HOV lane navigation

Postby CBenson » Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:55 pm

attheyard wrote:I understand the theory but if it is a parking lot road waze does not understand how to exit when you are in the HOV lane. You need to be able to get OFF the HOV as well as prevent getting on it. A turn restriction would better accomplish this goal.

Hmm, yes that is an issue isn't it. The problem is that many exits are not reversible, so they are simply marked as ramps. This means that waze will not route you off of a reversible entrance/exit marked as a parking lot road. Mike1323 has changed the entire HOV lane to parking lot and has changed the ramp back to ramp type. Presumably in response to this thread. I believe that should work. This also answers the question as to why its better to make the entire road a Parking Lot road rather than just the ramps.

attheyard wrote:Also with the parking lot road, how are you to know the HOV is an option if there is a serious accident on the main road? It's impossible. Anyone who lives in that area knows enough to avoid the HOV if it's closed-there's a gate in front of the lane, or if they can't use it-not enough people in the car. If you go another way, waze can handle the re-route. For these reasons I do not agree with making the ramp a parking lot road.
I don't understand why this has any impact on the parking lot / turn restriction choice.
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Re: HOV lane navigation

Postby attheyard » Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:43 pm

I understand the theory but if it is a parking lot road waze does not understand how to exit when you are in the HOV lane. You need to be able to get OFF the HOV as well as prevent getting on it. A turn restriction would better accomplish this goal.

Also with the parking lot road, how are you to know the HOV is an option if there is a serious accident on the main road? It's impossible. Anyone who lives in that area knows enough to avoid the HOV if it's closed-there's a gate in front of the lane, or if they can't use it-not enough people in the car. If you go another way, waze can handle the re-route. For these reasons I do not agree with making the ramp a parking lot road.
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Re: HOV lane navigation

Postby CBenson » Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:12 pm

I have changed the exit lane in question to a parking lot road. This should solve the problem.
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Re: HOV lane navigation

Postby Galahad2 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:43 pm

The turn is near the intersection of Interstate 95 and Hwy 123 in Woodbridge, Virginia, USA.
http://goo.gl/maps/PaXcI
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Re: HOV lane navigation

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:20 pm

That lane is improperly set up then. Yes, please post the location/highway name, city, state, etc, so an editor can look into it. All HOV lanes are supposed to be set to avoid routing as there is no way for Waze to know better at this time.
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