HOV lane navigation

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Re: HOV lane navigation

Postby attheyard » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:07 pm

attheyard wrote: The beltway around the city is almost never faster, but you have to do it if you're alone in the car. Waze doesn't know this. So why is I66 left as a routing option?


This is not quite true as it depends on where you are going. If you are going TO DC, it's a lot different than if you are going AROUND DC. I would never downtown if going from Fairfax to Annapolis, the beltway is always faster if traffic is moving at speed. But if going to DC before or after the HOV restriction time, I would take I-66 as it is faster


True, this should have been qualified; if you are going to the other side of DC (a la Annapolis to Fairfax) the beltway is likely faster. But if you are going into DC and stopping, the routes are very different.

It seems that the current system is probably the best possible way to do things. If waze were to implement HOV road marking similar to toll lane marking in the future it would be nice.
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Re: HOV lane navigation

Postby mysticcobra » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:25 pm

Agreed.
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UPDATE: 495 Express Lanes preferred by waze

Postby mysticcobra » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:47 pm

UPDATE: While travelling from the Baltimore MD area to Fairfax VA, on Sunday waze told me to take the 495 Express Lanes South starting just below the VA/MD state line near Potomac MD/Great Falls VA. I was surprised but took it anyway. It even got my exit right onto I-66 West.

I'm okay with this but find it strange as the lanes are not visible on the Live Map. What's going on?
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Re: HOV lane navigation

Postby CBenson » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:08 am

The appearance of the live map is notoriously unreliable. The updates are unpredictable and vary from zoom level to zoom level.
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Re: HOV lane navigation

Postby mysticcobra » Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:15 am

Good to know...

Also, the best news is that waze DID mark the route with the TOLL icon in the corner and it did suggest alternative slower routes. EXCELLENT!
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Re: HOV lane navigation

Postby istpsu2009 » Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:23 pm

source: http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/Carp ... nsit_lanes

Carpool, HOV, Transit lanes
Carpool lanes, High-occupancy Vehicle (HOV) lanes, and Transit lanes are road lanes reserved for cars carrying more than the driver. The number of required passengers in the vehicle can vary depending on the specific road.
Although currently Waze does not support the requirements of routing over these types of lanes, there are plans to add support for them in the future.
As an interim measure, these lanes should be added to the map as separate roads, with the road type as Parking Lot Roads. This means that if you are not currently in one of these lanes the routing will avoid it, but if you choose to get into the lane, the routing will work correctly.
Supporting these lanes is a priority for Waze, and they are aware of the problems caused by such lanes.
A complete solution needs to consider the following factors:
    The driver would need to tell the Waze client app how many passengers are present in the car for that trip. Waze would only offer routes over carpool lanes when there are sufficient passengers to be eligible
    A new road type of "carpool lane" would be added with an entry for how many passengers are required to use it
    The ability to change the direction of the car pool lane automatically based on time of day and day of week. This is also necessary for other roads
    The ability to set the minimum passenger count to zero (meaning the road is open to all drivers) based on time of day and day of week
    As car pool lanes are often adjacent to normal roads, GPS tracking is not sufficient to differentiate the two. For accurate road speeds Waze needs to assume you are using the car pool lane when you have passengers (and/or based on your speed)
    HOV lanes are being merged with Toll lanes (HOT lanes) and the user needs to be able to select if they want to allow toll roads. The map needs the ability to track multiple lane restrictions (HOV and/or Toll) for the same road rather than defining the road as either an HOV or a Toll lane.
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Re: HOV lane navigation

Postby crunchyfroggirl » Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:38 pm

Ah! So that would be why when heading south, Waze will direct me off the HOV at the exit before or the exit after, but will never direct me to take that one, even though it's obv. the quickest.
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Re: HOV lane navigation

Postby Galahad2 » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:10 pm

I disagree entirely using Waze on HOT/HOV lanes. The people that can afford the special vehicles/charges or are going to routes where carpools are available don't need Waze to tell them how to get past the traffic--they're zipping by it already. Those of us who are toiling in the main lanes need to be routed around traffic blockages, but are being directed to the Interstate exclusively by Waze thinking we will be going HOV, when in reality from my house a better route might be found if HOV consideration is excluded. Once we're at I-95 already, yeah the best way is probably going to be through the bottleneck--but I've driven 5 miles already just to get to that point only to be told to drive down the HOV. If Waze can't comprehend HOV schedules/qualifications, HOV should be excluded. If you're on the HOV and see an open ramp (unidirectional ramps are blocked by gates when the traffic schedule obviates it), there's no reason you can't drive down it without being directed to by Waze.
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Re: HOV lane navigation

Postby CBenson » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:20 pm

Galahad2 wrote:I disagree entirely using Waze on HOT/HOV lanes. The people that can afford the special vehicles/charges or are going to routes where carpools are available don't need Waze to tell them how to get past the traffic--they're zipping by it already.

There are certainly times when the HOV lanes back up. So waze is can certainly help even if you are HOT/HOV compliant.
Galahad2 wrote:Those of us who are toiling in the main lanes need to be routed around traffic blockages, but are being directed to the Interstate exclusively by Waze thinking we will be going HOV, when in reality from my house a better route might be found if HOV consideration is excluded. Once we're at I-95 already, yeah the best way is probably going to be through the bottleneck--but I've driven 5 miles already just to get to that point only to be told to drive down the HOV. If Waze can't comprehend HOV schedules/qualifications, HOV should be excluded. If you're on the HOV and see an open ramp (unidirectional ramps are blocked by gates when the traffic schedule obviates it), there's no reason you can't drive down it without being directed to by Waze.
Correct, if waze can't comprehend HOV schedules/qualification, then HOV should be excluded. However, we are close to the point where waze can comprehend the HOV schedules. Then we will have to see when waze will be able to comprehend HOV qualification.
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Re: HOV lane navigation

Postby mcbinder » Wed Jul 22, 2015 8:50 pm

I just started using Waze as my commute has changed to a high traffic route.

This same situation seem to be on I-15 in San Diego, between (at least) Rancho Bernardo Road southbound and Hillary road entrance ramp northbound.

Waze always tries to send me to the HOV lanes going to and from work.
They need to be settable as HOV or at least toll roads to allow correct navigation.

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