Question regarding an address across a median in Fairfax VA

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Re: Question regarding an address across a median in Fairfax

Postby txemt » Thu May 16, 2013 8:10 pm

That's why I was advocating it to be split. On top of that, you were pulling into a gas station, which doesn't need a parking lot road through it, as long as there's a gas station landmark.
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Re: Question regarding an address across a median in Fairfax

Postby mysticcobra » Thu May 16, 2013 12:42 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
txemt wrote:I looked up and down both roads and think that may be the best option, as opposed to a parking lot road, which will then be a wrong representation of what truly exists.

How do they turn off the street if there isn't a parking lot? If there is, then the proper way to be routed is from the other direction and that can be easily accomplished with turn restrictions.

I'm confused by your response. There are thousands of businesses on a road with no parking lot road into the parking lot. When you get to the address on the main road, you've arrived. But in this case the business is on the left on the other side of a median.
Turn restrictions are in place at the intersections. Can turn restrictions be placed on a segment of road? Maybe that's why I'm confused.
Waze told me I was there when I was going NE on Lee Hwy and the business was on the left. I would still have to go up to the next intersection and make a U-turn (assuming its allowed) and then come back. In this case it's easy to do but my point is that it affects other areas as well. All of Lee Hwy isn't divided by a median but it is through here.
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Re: Question regarding an address across a median in Fairfax

Postby txemt » Wed May 15, 2013 9:58 pm

I understand that the median doesn't fit the rules of the Wiki, but I think there needs to be an exception for these two streets. If Waze is saying "turn left" and the driver can't, cuz of a median, I'm all for splitting it. I looked up and down both roads and think that may be the best option, as opposed to a parking lot road, which will then be a wrong representation of what truly exists.
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Re: Question regarding an address across a median in Fairfax

Postby orbitc » Wed May 15, 2013 9:51 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
CBenson wrote:Doesn't look like too many to me here. But that is a subjective call.

Now that I've gotten a look at this, I don't think it needs to be split either.

One of my first suggestion was: to put a parking lot road
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Re: Question regarding an address across a median in Fairfax

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed May 15, 2013 9:48 pm

CBenson wrote:Doesn't look like too many to me here. But that is a subjective call.

Now that I've gotten a look at this, I don't think it needs to be split either.
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Re: Question regarding an address across a median in Fairfax

Postby txemt » Wed May 15, 2013 9:30 pm

orbitc wrote:
txemt wrote:I'm thinking because lee is a two way road, it's telling the op to cross the median. Like your normal neighborhood street.


Ditto


They both have medians that prevent people from accessing businesses on either side of the street, as well as preventing turns onto/from side streets.
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Re: Question regarding an address across a median in Fairfax

Postby CBenson » Wed May 15, 2013 9:26 pm

txemt wrote:Myself and orbtic have come to the conclusion Blake and Lee need to be split roads.

Why? And where?

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
MysticCobra wrote:But what about every other business on this road and others with a median? Are these roads typically split when you can't physically cross a median to a business on the left?

If there too many to make parking lot roads viable, then splitting the road is the only option at this time.

Doesn't look like too many to me here. But that is a subjective call.
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Re: Question regarding an address across a median in Fairfax

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed May 15, 2013 8:58 pm

MysticCobra wrote:But what about every other business on this road and others with a median? Are these roads typically split when you can't physically cross a median to a business on the left?

If there too many to make parking lot roads viable, then splitting the road is the only option at this time.
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Re: Question regarding an address across a median in Fairfax

Postby txemt » Wed May 15, 2013 8:41 pm

Myself and orbtic have come to the conclusion Blake and Lee need to be split roads.
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Re: Question regarding an address across a median in Fairfax

Postby txemt » Wed May 15, 2013 7:10 pm

MysticCobra wrote:Are these roads typically split when you can't physically cross a median to a business on the left?


That's being discussed right now.
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