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Re: Tile Update Schedule for New/Modified Addresses?

Postby CBenson » Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:09 pm

It is hard to guarantee anything as this is mostly based on trial and error, but yes I would think that would work. The only caveat is that it is the accepted abbreviation to use in waze so it wouldn't be consistent with the rest of the map. However, the abbreviations haven't really been tested for this issue.

The other tack is that the problem here seems to be that Google has no addresses for Quail Crossing. You could add them in Google mapmaker.
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Re: Tile Update Schedule for New/Modified Addresses?

Postby CBenson » Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:25 pm

Exactly, the autofill results use the Google database entries. Selecting an autofill result will route you to the Google pin location, unless there is an exact waze match in which case you will be routed to the waze stop point. If you complete the search or ask for more options you are given a set of best matches from both waze and Google, but with the waze results favored. In this case, it seems that the match is not good enough to have the autofill result route to the waze pin. But it is good enough that the Google result does show on the waze tab in the app.

Some other examples with slightly different results. Take 2172 Mulberry Hill Rd, Annapolis, Maryland. This address is in both the Google database and the waze database. The waze stop point is at the end of the driveway that is far from the closest point on the road to the house, where the Google pin is. As there is a perfect match here, selecting either the autofill result or the search result on the waze tab will route me to the waze stop point at the end of the driveway. (If I switch the search result to the Google tab and select that entry, I am routed to the closest point on the road to the house.)

Another example is 355 Montecristo Ct. Here waze is using the CDP so its "355 Montecristo Ct, Odenton, MD," while Google is using the mailing ZIP so its "355 Montecristo Court, Severn, MD" The autofill result is the Google result "355 Montecristo Ct, Severn, MD United States" routing to it shows the destination flag at the Google pin location. If you complete the search you get both "355 Montecristo Court, Severn, MD" and "355 Montecristo Ct, Odenton, MD" as results. As the city names are different, waze doesn't know they are the same place. If you choose the "Severn" entry you get the destination flag at the Google pin. If you choose the "Odenton" entry you get the destination flag at the waze stop point on the road.
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Re: Tile Update Schedule for New/Modified Addresses?

Postby CBenson » Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:52 pm

Yes, I think it does. But as it does, I'm surprised it doesn't offer the Google alternative under the waze tab. It seems to do this when the cities are different.
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Re: Tile Update Schedule for New/Modified Addresses?

Postby CBenson » Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:15 pm

Not sure. But if the city names don't match then we know that waze won't find that its entry matches the Google entry.
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Re: Tile Update Schedule for New/Modified Addresses?

Postby CBenson » Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:26 pm

Yes, that is the way it works. The autofill list is from the Google database, but if you complete the search you are taken to the waze tab with the waze result.

Although I am surprised that in this case waze understands that "2 Quail Crossing, Vernon, CT" matches "2 Quail Xing, Vernon, CT" and thus doesn't also present the Google result on the waze tab.
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Re: Tile Update Schedule for New/Modified Addresses?  Topic is solved

Postby CBenson » Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:35 pm

I'm only getting the correct location in the app for 4311 Green Glade Rd, Phoenix, MD. I don't know why the live map is giving the old Google location.
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Re: Tile Update Schedule for New/Modified Addresses?

Postby CBenson » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:42 pm

I guess that highlights another problem with lack of city names, the increased probability that there are two roads named "Green Glade Rd, MD."
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Re: Tile Update Schedule for New/Modified Addresses?

Postby CBenson » Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:12 pm

Well that's been the question for quite awhile. Should enter the ZIP city as an alternate name. I guess this would be a good one to test.

Should we add Green Glade Rd, Swanton, MD as an alternate name and see what happens?
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Re: Tile Update Schedule for New/Modified Addresses?

Postby CBenson » Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:41 pm

Waze does confirm that if there is no city name, the search returns use Goggle's result, and not Waze's, as waze can't be sure the waze result is good enough in this case.

Maybe we do need to reconsider using Zip Code cities in rural areas.
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Re: Tile Update Schedule for New/Modified Addresses?

Postby CBenson » Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:58 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:Even after tapping the auto-fill result, Waze is still supposed to look at the internal house number data, and if it finds a match, is supposed to use the Waze result.

Right, that is what seems to be happening for the second example, 10036 Hilgreen Circle. But as it stands waze never finds a "match" if the Waze result doesn't have a city name. Thus, as the Google results are used for the autofill, you will never be taken to to waze address pin result for a road segment without a city name by tapping on the autofill results. Even worse, if you do ask for search results, a Google result with an assumed city is listed above the waze result without the city name.
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