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Required rank for closures should depend on type of street

Postby FasterinoSpeederino » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:36 am

Hello,

i'm relatively new in Waze, although I have fun contributing to the community. In Germany, creating closures is enabled at level 4. I know it's because of the danger of abuse. But on the other hand such a strict rule is bad for people who want to really help the community with their motivation and have to inform a higher ranked member, just to add the tiniest closures. The alternative is the TBR because you can add them already on the same level you can edit the street. They have the disadvantage that they aren't yet displayed in the clients and aren't visible as registered closure. Of course more editors have the possibility to delete false closures but if this is not the case a new tile update is necessary to apply the changes. A closure can also be removed when somebody sees the mistake and just drives through.

In my opinion closures can not fulfill its potential like that. But a rank based system like editing and applying TBR would be better I think. I know the danger is the real-time property. Possible would be the same rank as editing (worst case removing roads) and applying TBR's (worst case removing with next tile update) or a saver variant one rank above the rank required to edit those on the lower ranks (example: Level 2 street need level 3 to add a closure).

Just an opinion and wanted to leave this somewhere. ;)
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Re: Closures should require the same rank as a TBR / editing

Postby Robert04101 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:52 pm

I like the refinement that a segment at Ln could be closed by a Rn+1 editor (still allowing R4 editors to close anything). Unlike deletions or bad edits, closures do no permanent harm to the map, so I'm not sure I understand why the level restriction should uniformly be so high.
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Re: Required rank for closures should depend on type of stre

Postby FasterinoSpeederino » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:33 pm

Thank You! :) Yes that would be a good compromise and a benefit. But it's questionable whether the other editors see that as a possibility as well.
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Re: Required rank for closures should depend on type of stre

Postby BOSSHAI » Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:43 pm

Hello! I agree, but did you post in Waze Suggestion Box first? If you did this, give me the link to vote your idea
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Re: Required rank for closures should depend on type of stre

Postby jm6087 » Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:42 pm

I believe that the rank required to place closures is regionally decided. In the US, it is minimum of Rank 3 and then is dependent on the lock level of the segment as well.

This may be something to discuss with the Germany editing leadership to see if they want to consider requesting Waze to lower the requirement or not. You can post something in the Germany forum page to begin the discussion with them.
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Re: Required rank for closures should depend on type of stre

Postby wrocco » Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:35 pm

Bad idea, how you could prevent vandalism, allowing this?
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Re: Required rank for closures should depend on type of stre

Postby FasterinoSpeederino » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:54 pm

Thank you for your answers, maybe I will suggest something like this in the german forum. @wrocco I find the requirements for leveling up pretty high already, because the missing details are decreasing furthermore. And the free time invested for getting L3 with 25.000 edits is pretty high. And to need 100.000 edits for adding almost the same feature as TBR is very "safe for vandalism" in my opinion.
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Re: Required rank for closures should depend on type of stre  Topic is solved

Postby turbomkt » Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:40 pm

A trusted junior editor can be given RTC ability within an area. This allows someone to set closures regardless of the lock level of the segment.
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Re: Required rank for closures should depend on type of stre

Postby FasterinoSpeederino » Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:06 am

Ah ok that would be a possibility. I haven't heard about it until your post, so I don't know how this is handled in Germany. But it seems that there is a discussion about the topic already just waiting for staff's response and there are editors who have some suggestions for changes as well. Such ja trusted junior editor could maybe fulfill the role as a good compromise in a "new concept".
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