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Re: Regional Coordinators ability to limit/grant editable ar

Postby CBenson » Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:55 pm

MGODLEW wrote:Besides physically driving to an area to edit an area, I feel like a Regional coordinator should have the ability to enable editing for creditable editors of a lower rank (3's or 4's) in areas they haven't driven to if that area needs special attention/help. Allow it to be time restricted or permanent.

Could you further explain how your suggestion should differ from the current AM process?
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Re: grant pseudo-drive

Postby dbraughlr » Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:10 pm

I support this proposal. It would be no different than if the editor had driven through the area. In other words, let the RC create a pseudo drive for the person along a route to be edited. It would be good until it expires and require no extra management or maintenance. It very clearly would not imply the duties or privileges of AM. It would be exactly as if you drove the route, nothing more.

I've also seen a need for one editor to grant temporary-assist privileges to another editor who doesn't have a drive covering the problem area. A spot drive giving even a circle of a one-half or 1-mile radius would solve a lot of problems. But that is a matter for another proposal.
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Re: Regional Coordinators ability to limit/grant editable ar

Postby klauskkinski » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:43 am

An Area Manager, AM for short, is a Waze community member (a user) who wishes to take an active and proactive role in maintaining specific areas of the Waze map.

Further to this discussion - the area that somebody takes over should be a manageable size (and I understand that this might vary from person to person however...). I noticed some managers take giant areas and it's impossible for a person to know the details of all changes or even to verify the changes if necessary for huge areas. I try to edit several square miles/km around the place I live and work (plus some random things I notice as I drive around) and even this small area is challenging with all the changes as well as URs that pop up. On the other side I see some AMs that take over whole countries (e.g. in Europe where I'm originally from). I lived there for majority of my life and I could hardly say that I know my own city well enough to take it on as a whole.

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Re: Regional Coordinators ability to limit/grant editable ar

Postby klauskkinski » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:27 pm

MGODLEW wrote:Plus, more experienced editors should be able to edit an area properly even if they have never visited the area before. Google Street View became a great tool to help editors do this.

Google doesn't really help with day to day changes. Do you really know every construction site in your ares? Just FYI I added the street where I live on waze. It didn't exist. Neither does my building on google maps nor google street view. The google photos were taken about 2 years ago and neither existed at that time. Or can you fine red light cameras on google street view? The shell gas station two blocks away from my place shut down about three months ago. It's still on google... If I wanted a regular GPS system, I'd go for google maps or buy a Garmin. The reason I like Waze is it's local social attribute as well as the fact that locals that edit the area actually know it. But the social aspect has to have a proper oversight.
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Regional Coordinators ability to limit/grant editable areas

Postby MGODLEW » Fri Nov 22, 2013 7:45 pm

Besides physically driving to an area to edit an area, I feel like a Regional coordinator should have the ability to enable editing for creditable editors of a lower rank (3's or 4's) in areas they haven't driven to if that area needs special attention/help. Further more, give the ability to limit an editors editable area regardless of where someone has driven if they are a new editor. If someone is a new editor and doing poor edits to the map, I'd rather see them destroy a tiny area of the map that won't take very long to track down/fix compared to hundreds of miles of the map if the person drives a lot. If the persons edits in the assigned area are deemed creditable then the restriction on the editing area can be lifted or specify a time frame for when their restriction would be lifted automatically.
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Regional Coordinators ability to limit/grant editable areas

Postby MGODLEW » Fri Nov 22, 2013 8:13 pm

I figured someone would bring this up. The way waze looks at an AM is as follows:
An Area Manager, AM for short, is a Waze community member (a user) who wishes to take an active and proactive role in maintaining specific areas of the Waze map. How deeply involved and how much time an Area Manager spends maintaining the Waze map varies greatly. Duties of an Area Manager include, but not necessarily limited to:
Respond to and correct user update requests on the Update Requests layer.
Process and resolve map errors/problems as shown on the Map Problems layer.
Make changes to the map when road construction projects start and finish by maintaining new geometry, adding or deleting roads and disconnecting and re-connecting ramps.
Maintain speed and red-light cameras, processing reports of devices from Waze drivers.
Act as a mentor to other editors, offering advice in both the forums and when you see improper edits on the map.

Well, aside from the ability to place a restriction on new editors, The difference with my suggestion would be that if an RC enables editing in an area for someone, that person wouldn't be responsible for continuing to maintain the area. Usually someone becomes an AM for an area they know a lot about and are very familiar with. I guess the main thing with my suggestion is that the ability to edit the area would not be permanent like an AM assigned area is. The ability to edit that assigned area would expire unless they drive to that particular area in which the expiration counter would refresh.

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Re: Regional Coordinators ability to limit/grant editable ar

Postby MGODLEW » Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:20 pm

klauskkinski wrote:
I noticed some managers take giant areas and it's impossible for a person to know the details of all changes or even to verify the changes if necessary for huge areas.

I personally manage 2 large areas and while it maybe hard to know and keep track of every little change that occurs in those areas, generally speaking most AM's are at least rather familiar with the areas they manage in general. Plus, more experienced editors should be able to edit an area properly even if they have never visited the area before. Google Street View became a great tool to help editors do this.
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Re: Regional Coordinators ability to limit/grant editable ar

Postby MGODLEW » Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:18 pm

klauskkinski wrote: Do you really know every construction site in your areas?

No.. I don't, some responsible falls onto the Wazers themselves to make the community better for all. Sure, the AM should respond promptly to reports of construction sites and make the appropriate edits to reflect any reports but it certainly is not the "duty" of any AM to know every construction zone in their area as that is nearly impossible since new construction sites popup everyday, not to mention other utility work that might block or close roads, there is no way of knowing that kind of stuff until it is reported.

Also, I'd like to refer you to the AM Wiki Page "How deeply involved and how much time an Area Manager spends maintaining the Waze map varies greatly." There is no: you MUST give xxx% to be an AM.
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Re: Regional Coordinators ability to limit/grant editable ar

Postby orbitc » Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:27 am

klauskkinski wrote:
MGODLEW wrote:Plus, more experienced editors should be able to edit an area properly even if they have never visited the area before. Google Street View became a great tool to help editors do this.

Google doesn't really help with day to day changes. Do you really know every construction site in your ares? Just FYI I added the street where I live on waze. It didn't exist. Neither does my building on google maps nor google street view. The google photos were taken about 2 years ago and neither existed at that time. Or can you fine red light cameras on google street view? The shell gas station two blocks away from my place shut down about three months ago. It's still on google... If I wanted a regular GPS system, I'd go for google maps or buy a Garmin. The reason I like Waze is it's local social attribute as well as the fact that locals that edit the area actually know it. But the social aspect has to have a proper oversight.


Experienced editor should be able to look an area and see if the guidelines and Best Map Editing practices are followed. We cannot know every road, thus we look for the locals to advise us. Nothing is better than the boots on the ground. But we could still rely on GPS tracks and other tools. When it doubts check with the last editor who edited the segment. This comes with experience.
Having a large area doesn't mean you have to edit heavily unfamiliar areas, rather be able to help those in need.
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Re: Regional Coordinators ability to limit/grant editable ar

Postby ply8808 » Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:52 pm

I also support this proposal, I have traveled many places that have no AM or local editors, the only thing touched was the main thoroughfares by CMs, because of my travel I was able to give these areas some quality time until the editing rights ran out. The difference here would be the approval from the same person who would grant AM requests and the request may even be initiated from the approving person who needs some work done by a favorable editor.
I guess the only concern would be the continuing issues that may arise but the RC could always grant another session to the editor.
Furthermore if an experienced editor is spending time in an area, they can assist with the locals and encourage good editors to commit to the community.
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