Does Waze consider smaller roads into it's routing?

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Re: Does Waze consider smaller roads into it's routing?

Postby danohi » Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:01 am

bgodette wrote:Yes lets completely ignore the rest of the thread after that list and go on a trip of hyperbole. That list has been proved to be in disagreement with how routing actually works with a well edited map with sufficient user density.



I think this is the crux- Waze does not tell us if our local area is well-edited with sufficient user density. When I visited Los Angeles a couple of months ago, I found Waze capable of re-routing me to other routes to avoid major traffic crunches. In my home market of Honolulu, with settings of fastest & avoid major highways non-selected, Waze will usually offer only the one east-west interstate as a route, ignoring primary streets and minor highways. I usually use the navigation only for the graphic traffic bar, then turn it off.
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Re: Does Waze consider smaller roads into it's routing?

Postby floppyrod84 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:45 am

Which seems to suggest that Brian is in fact correct.
I never used to be routed around a particular traffic build up at the same time every day. It wasn't until enough data was gathered on that road and the alternatives that Waze understood what it was like.
Include map errors, and the chances of it ever working are near on impossible.

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Re: Does Waze consider smaller roads into it's routing?

Postby floppyrod84 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:46 am

Also, the way the algorithms work will never be divulged by Waze. It's their secret sauce, so we as editors and users can only speculate on how it works.

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Re: Does Waze consider smaller roads into it's routing?

Postby OldGnome » Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:27 pm

I live in the Tampa, FL area and drive a couple hundred miles each week in the local area and across the state. Waze has always been able to show me an alternate route when I have asked for one.
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Re: Does Waze consider smaller roads into it's routing?

Postby mirarkitty » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:49 am

xteejx wrote:Also, the way the algorithms work will never be divulged by Waze. It's their secret sauce, so we as editors and users can only speculate on how it works.


Why is that? I thought Waze' business idea was to sell the data the users generate.

There will be more users if the maps and routes are better. They will be if the editors and users know how to work with Waze.

How to make routes / path-optimizations is one of the oldest and most basic problems in computing algorithms. I doubt they have anything very clever.
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Re: Does Waze consider smaller roads into it's routing?

Postby floppyrod84 » Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:09 pm

They are probably going to sell anonymous drive data, yes. They would have no need to supply any internal code with it...

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Re: Does Waze consider smaller roads into it's routing?

Postby bgodette » Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:10 pm

RodNav wrote:Copied this from the automatic answer:
Code: Select all
Long Distances:
0-15 km - All road types are allows for routing.
15-20 km - All road types except Streets.
20-30 km - All road types except Streets and Primary streets.
30-200 km - Only Minor, Major, and Freeways.
more than 200 km - only Freeways.
25Km point to point, ~35Km driven. uses Primary in the middle.
31Km point to point, ~48Km driven. Still uses Primary in the middle.
58.8Km point to point, ~72.4Km driven. Still uses Primary. And now I'm starting to run out of well edited area.
22Km point to point, ~31.3Km driven. Uses Primary for almost the entire route.
Clearly that list is not an absolute and should not be treated as such.
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