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Re: Re: install on two devices

Postby mssusa » Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:18 pm

Mirarkitty wrote:
fvwazing wrote:It is a measure against cheating. By driving with more than one Wazeclient assigned to the same account you could otherwise rack up more points.


And? Who cares as long as the data comes in? I'm totally fine with people cheating. All I care about is that the road map that I'm using has the best possible data. If someone is so desperate to get a gold whatchamacallit that they cheat, I couldn't possibly care less...

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Wouldn't the right measure to only count points from one of the clients then, if it's actually a problem?
That seems trivial enough.


It is always possible to use two different accounts if you don't care for the points. You'll get both data and editing access to both areas.

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install on two devices

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:03 pm

People cheat to rack up large amounts of points and gain editing area access and then decimate the map. ALL OF YOU should definitely care about cheating.
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Re: install on two devices

Postby harling » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:35 am

Mirarkitty wrote:
fvwazing wrote:IBy driving with more than one Wazeclient assigned to the same account you could otherwise rack up more points.

And? Who cares as long as the data comes in?... All I care about is that the road map that I'm using has the best possible data...

Driving with additional clients running, all reporting virtually identical GPS tracks, adds no value to Waze; it only wastes server resources.
Wouldn't the right measure to only count points from one of the clients then, if it's actually a problem? That seems trivial enough.

Apart from wasting server resources, the server currently is not designed to distinguish between multiple sessions on multiple clients using the same ID. Presumably, it would require additional programming, debugging etc. to make it do that--all for the sake of discarding the data from all but one session anyway?
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Re: install on two devices

Postby jasonh300 » Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:39 am

harling wrote:Driving with additional clients running, all reporting virtually identical GPS tracks, adds no value to Waze; it only wastes server resources.


Not only that, but it would be providing false traffic data, much like running multiple devices with multiple accounts in the same vehicle. It would destroy average speed data very quickly.
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Re: install on two devices

Postby cherianchris » Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:09 am

So does the app have single sign in? If not, it should be put forward to the devs and enforced.
Wazers who want to use two devices could sign in each time they open the app. And waze could sign out the other device automatically.

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Re: install on two devices

Postby mirarkitty » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:15 am

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:People cheat to rack up large amounts of points and gain editing area access and then decimate the map. ALL OF YOU should definitely care about cheating.


Hmm. If people decimate the map it seems like a much, much worse problem and can't have much to do with cheating. Does that really happen? If so, we need a wiki-like history on maps so we can back destructive changes.

I can't see drive-points-cheating leading to anything other than fancy icons and thus not very useful.
Other than using people very far away, then it might allow you to decimate the map over there as well, but I can't really see the train of thought anyone might have there ("You, over there in Faraway City, use my account so I can ruin the map for you!!1!" or what?)...
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Re: install on two devices

Postby mirarkitty » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:21 am

jasonh300 wrote:Not only that, but it would be providing false traffic data, much like running multiple devices with multiple accounts in the same vehicle. It would destroy average speed data very quickly.


I doubt it would destroy anything very quickly having two devices giving the latest speed data rather than one. If only one more car would drive on the road (worst case), it would still only contribute 30% more than it would with only one device. (With no other car on the road, it has the full contribution regardless, and with more than one other car the contribution lowers dramatically.)

Or is waze using some much, much fuzzier sort of math?

Two devices in one car gives exactly the same problem as two cars with waze following each other, and that doesn't seem to be a problem at all. Rather it updates the road data better, from what I've seen... :p
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Re: install on two devices

Postby CBenson » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:18 pm

Mirarkitty wrote:Two devices in one car gives exactly the same problem as two cars with waze following each other, and that doesn't seem to be a problem at all. Rather it updates the road data better, from what I've seen... :p

Two devices logged into the same account in two cars following each other does cause data problems. The issue is that waze thinks the position jumps back and forth between the two devices.
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install on two devices

Postby dirgela » Mon Dec 31, 2012 7:21 pm

As far as I remember when I was opening waze on second device with the same login it was simply not logging in and connected as anonymous. iOS 5.
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Re: install on two devices

Postby rasg81 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:48 am

dirgela wrote:As far as I remember when I was opening waze on second device with the same login it was simply not logging in and connected as anonymous. iOS 5.


Tested yesterday logging on my phone and tablet at the same time.
Worked just fine.
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