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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby taco909 » Fri Sep 26, 2014 8:37 pm

I absolutely agree, but the client/server communication routines would need to be tweaked to increase the polling frequency for at least this one alert, and this would impact data usage (already low but it's a concern).
I guess the server could "push" only the RR alerts to users in the immediate area plus those running a route that passes through the crossing.

The basic architecture is in place, just the present way of handling alerts needs a complete overhaul, ie:
"accident ahead>minor accident>reported by waze 8 hours ago" accident was cleared in 30 minutes... some alerts "stick" for too long.
Alerts appear on the map but there is no warning given.
Alert on the map, verbal warning given, but no popup so no ability to thank or report "not there" (I've been encountering a LOT of this in the last week)

And of course, the latency in the alerts being distributed to the clients, plus the time delay encountered by the routing server in calculating a bypass, then determining if the bypass is faster than the delay from historical RR blockage times.

When it comes to delay-driven short detour rerouting, we have problems today that need to be corrected before adding yet another source of issues. I'm constantly finding URs reporting drivers being directed to make a right turn, then a u-turn, only to come back to where they were.
At first these "detours" only avoided left turns, but the last couple of weeks I've been seeing them appear where the driver is continuing straight.
Adding another detour-promoter is going to complicate fixing these issues.
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby taco909 » Tue Oct 07, 2014 7:23 pm

I would have accepted that and just made the edit.
The photo appears to be what Waze wants.
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby taco909 » Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:31 pm

Challenger3802 wrote:It's probably also the allure of receiving 18 points for every photo submission (of a destination). Most of the ones I've rejected are for home addresses where the picture is a random shot down a street, with "pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey" luck of which house do I want?

You can't add a place without taking a photo.
Some may want to add the place with the address but prefer not to take a photo... and if there are any vehicles in the driveway, we can't accept them anyways due to license plates.

So instead of taking a photo of a house that will be rejected, or taking a photo of a house that they do not want posted on what they believe will be public, they simply take a shot of the street, or the inside of their car or front door.

It's a problem with the implementation of the feature... not the user.

I tried to add a new place yesterday, but the app INSISTED that the photo and description merge with an existing area place (poorly drawn) that overlapped the place I was trying to add.
I did not have the option to update or add... it forced the update, and since I'm above L1, it applied it immediately without approval.

Many editors have been complaining that airports and other major area-place landmarks are being corrupted by this... it's a big problem.
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby taco909 » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:38 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
Taco909 wrote:You can't add a place without taking a photo.

True, but one can easily update all other details of a place without having to take a photo. But it isn't clear to everyone how to do it, so ... users are doing it the only way they see which is obvious. Waze needs to re-work how Places get updated.

How? The app went directly to the camera when I tapped the "Place" button on report and my only options were to take a picture or cancel the report.
I had no option to update w/o photo, or to add a new place separate from the area place that I was within.

I just tried one from my home and AFTER taking the picture, it gave me the option of updating several landmarks near me or creating a new one, but that option did not appear yesterday when I was inside of an existing area place that was poorly drawn.
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby taco909 » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:57 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
Taco909 wrote:How?

Either search for a Place (Waze Place) and tap on it, or use an item in your nav history, then tap the (i). Then scroll down and tap Suggest an Edit.

Okay... works, but ya, not natural, and not convenient at all for something that one just happens to notice but doesn't know if it is a Waze place or not (since point places are still not rendered)
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby taco909 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:36 am

Okay, maybe not so "Jolly"... but a VERY good reporter....

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The user's photo....

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And a shot from the Caltrans freeway traffic camera....

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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby taco909 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:11 am

http://quickmap.dot.ca.gov/
Zoom in to Euclid & SR-60 in Ontario.
He's STILL sitting there on the K-rail

Wife was stuck in that mess.
My chicken tacos are cold but still good.
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby taco909 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:25 am

Fredo-p wrote:That's what the other side looks like. Long way down.

Yup.

I used a GPS spoofer app to leave 3 map-chats ahead of the 71 and 15 interchanges.
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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby taco909 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:19 am

Fredo-p wrote:It just got real on the US-60 jumper. SWAT is next to him and he has the knife to his throat.

Hook & ladder....

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Re: Jolly drivers

Postby taco909 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:20 am

Maybe he's another victim of Western Dental.
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