mikecash wrote: As I mentioned earlier, we do it for points and the idle distraction like you would get from working a jigsaw puzzle.
Your jigsaw analogy is exactly correct. In fact, over the Christmas holiday, I usually do a jigsaw to while away some of the idle time. This Christmas past, I didn't... I Wazedited instead. I agree with most of what you said. I have described the Waze devotees as hobbyists here many times. ("lickspittle apologists" is a good one - I must remember to use it elsewhere!) My main gripe has not been the things that they have failed to do but the little obstacles they put in the way that reduce productivity of editing - in effect saying that some of the jigsaw pieces are not available to you and you can only do it the slowest possible way.
As far as the OP is concerned I would say that of course people edit from the aerial images. It will take for ever otherwise. They should of course pay attention to other people's edits and the GPS layer but it will take forever if people don't edit from the aerials.
I too am in a mapped-from-scratch country. When I started, in February of last year, Ireland's maps were similar to yours - perhaps a bit worse because two individuals had driven around madly and never edited anything - all their crap was in the way and back then you could not delete other people's roads unless you were an AM. The leader board for the country had, typically, five people per week on it and I was on the all-time leader board within a few days of starting. A little over a year later this is what Dublin looks like
https://world.waze.com/editor/?zoom=0&l ... FFTFTTTTFT
It is practically complete and if you look at anywhere in the east of the country, you will find that all the major and minor routes are in and considerable progress is being made on the lesser roads. I say this by way of encouragement (and slightly bragging). Its not completely hopeless but it will take a big effort - an effort that could be reduced considerably if Waze looked at productivity seriously. There are about ten active editors in the country but still not enough people driving to remove the guesswork about the fastest route home in the evening. I begin to despair that it will ever provide me with that. The drop-off rate is horrendous - a friend who started about four weeks ago has amassed 7608 points and has a world ranking of 92258 i.e. in a month he has passed 2.3 million people who download the application and gave up.
The bad news is that it has cost me 232,526 map edits, 1591.516 new kms, 41,773.61 existing kms, 716 resolved URs and 1,632,881 Waze cookie eating meters giving me 944,430 points and a world rank of 13, I intend to stop shortly (on 999,999 points with any luck) as the portion of the jigsaw I am interested in is effectively finished.
I would encourage you to keep giving the "lickspittle apologists" a hard time!