More evidence Map Problems use OLD GPS DATA

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Re: More evidence Map Problems use OLD GPS DATA

Postby steinbdj » Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:26 pm

Get rid of the missing road map problems. 9 our of 10 are bogus.


I'm sure that's true in many areas that are closely monitored, but I've been working recently on some areas (suburban Philadelphia) where at least half of them are legitimate. And not all of them are new subdivisions either: particularly in central New Jersey, a fair number of them are roads that appear to have been around for a while but simply aren't on the map. (None of which is particularly relevant, but I wouldn't want to see these reports go away.)
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Re: More evidence Map Problems use OLD GPS DATA

Postby mwhead2 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:27 am

Same issues here:

https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=4&lat ... TFTFTTTTFT
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I drove through here two months ago and still nothing :x


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This bridge has been closed since the beginning of the year (and isn't scheduled to reopen until the end)
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Re: More evidence Map Problems use OLD GPS DATA

Postby mapcat » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:06 pm

9 out of 10 map problems are bogus. Just get rid of the damn thing!
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Re: Re: More evidence Map Problems use OLD GPS DATA

Postby khaytsus » Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:06 pm

mapcat wrote:9 out of 10 map problems are bogus. Just get rid of the damn thing!

But of they do that how will I pick which fast food places to eat? ;-)
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Re: More evidence Map Problems use OLD GPS DATA

Postby jasonh300 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:11 pm

I've seen evidence of current GPS tracks, but if we're seeing GPS tracks from the past 6 months, they're no good in a situation like Alan's. I ran into a similar problem with a bridge that's being "improved", resulting in shifts in lanes every few weeks. The IGN editors kept putting the roads back where they used to be based on the old GPS tracks.

The old GPS tracks should go away when they're 14 or 21 days older than the newest tracks.
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Re: More evidence Map Problems use OLD GPS DATA

Postby gettingthere » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:08 pm

To complete AlanOfTheBerg's screen shots of his example, proof that the GPS points layer is showing old data (in addition to the Map Problem Layer).

How in the heck can we update the Waze map, while only reference data that is in available in WME (vs. other sources of more up to date aerials), when we cannot rely on the GPS Points layer?

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Re: More evidence Map Problems use OLD GPS DATA

Postby gettingthere » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:01 pm

Below is the announcement that AlanOfTheBerg is referring to - posted on March 18, 2012. I agree that the GPS Point Layer updating IS NOT WORKING. Recently I have seen Map Problems generated from GPS tracks data that were from April 2012.

So we need to let Shirli know that we are encountering issues! But surely they will say this is due to the influx of Waze 3.2 users even though we know that this HAS NEVER BEEN WORKING PROPERLY since WME was released.

Also, I am also wondering why we need data from the last 6 months. I agree with jasonh300 that there should be a few weeks old data at most. And if the missing road map problems must stay (please get rid of them!) they should only be considering the most recent GPS point data.

http://status.waze.com/gps-points-layer ... tor-both-n

"GPS POINTS LAYER IN THE NEW MAP EDITOR (BOTH NA AND INTL)

Some good news -

The GPS layer is now updating on a regular basis on both INTL and NA map editors.

The layer is updating every few days (usually cycles of 1 week or less).

The GPS layer is supposed to include GPS points from the last 6 months.

PLEASE NOTE that in some areas we filter the GPS points and we do not necessarily display all of them. It happens mostly in busy areas.

Please let us know if you encounter any issues.

Thanks!

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Re: More evidence Map Problems use OLD GPS DATA

Postby gettingthere » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:50 pm

mapcat wrote:9 out of 10 map problems are bogus. Just get rid of the damn thing!


Let me clarify:

Get rid of the missing road map problems. 9 our of 10 are bogus.
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Re: More evidence Map Problems use OLD GPS DATA

Postby floppyrod84 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:41 am

Yeah I have that here near Manston Airport. There were building changes resulting in a new road layout. Still no gps tracks and it's been built for oohh about 5 months or so. I have driven through the new roads myself several times, like months ago, so this affects us too.
I rarely see map problems these days but would like to keep it as is, we're quite a bit behind map wise.

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Re: More evidence Map Problems use OLD GPS DATA

Postby Daknife » Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:16 am

True, I run across enough legitimate ones that I'm not ready to phase them out entirely, but (and I'm not a coder so I don't know how difficult this would be) it would be nice if they could at least program to recognize the typical loop of a car going through a gas station or bank/restaurant drive through. That would eliminate a large percentage of the bogus ones.
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