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More winning for Waze

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:57 pm

New roundabout and jughandle-style layout completed months ago. Waze was first with this. But now Gmaps has it. But there's still a problem:

Google Route
Waze Route (there is the possibility of a 2nd route which goes past the exit and does a "u-turn" at the next exit; depending on traffic, that is a valid route, too)

The left-turn at the end of the freeway off-ramp doesn't exist any more as you are required to use the jughandle. Waze's route is more complex, but it is legal. Waze wins again.
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Re: More winning for Waze

Postby bgodette » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:47 am

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:New roundabout and jughandle-style layout completed months ago. Waze was first with this. But now Gmaps has it. But there's still a problem:

Google Route
Waze Route (there is the possibility of a 2nd route which goes past the exit and does a "u-turn" at the next exit; depending on traffic, that is a valid route, too)

The left-turn at the end of the freeway off-ramp doesn't exist any more as you are required to use the jughandle. Waze's route is more complex, but it is legal. Waze wins again.
Bet if you went into Google Mapmaker you'd see an edit war going on between locals trying to correct the map, and reviewers half way around the world that insist the aerials and streetview are reality.
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Re: Re: More winning for Waze

Postby bgodette » Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:26 pm

douglasr007 wrote:
bgodette wrote:
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:New roundabout and jughandle-style layout completed months ago. Waze was first with this. But now Gmaps has it. But there's still a problem:

Google Route
Waze Route (there is the possibility of a 2nd route which goes past the exit and does a "u-turn" at the next exit; depending on traffic, that is a valid route, too)

The left-turn at the end of the freeway off-ramp doesn't exist any more as you are required to use the jughandle. Waze's route is more complex, but it is legal. Waze wins again.
Bet if you went into Google Mapmaker you'd see an edit war going on between locals trying to correct the map, and reviewers half way around the world that insist the aerials and streetview are reality.

Pretty much.

Google has to be strict with edits just because it's the Maps API. For newly built intersections, you can't reference county GIS maps since it probably won't be added for a while. Google would rather play it safe and be certain that the changes made are legit.
You can most certainly reference city/county/state data, at least in the US. Project plans and as constructed are both available by law. It may not always be trivially available online however. While the construction is active those plans are available to the public on site as well.


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Re: More winning for Waze

Postby bgodette » Sat Mar 09, 2013 7:37 am

5:15pm Friday night. O Rly?
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Re: More winning for Waze

Postby crimsonwingz » Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:21 am

The more they change to these weird turn right to turn left areas, the more confusing its going to get to be accurate with the GPS. At least Waze is MUCH more real time. The only confusion that comes for me is when Waze routes me 4 miles around the block to get home :) I have to learn how to edit the roads so I can fix that route :)
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Re: More winning for Waze

Postby douglasr007 » Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:21 am

bgodette wrote:
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:New roundabout and jughandle-style layout completed months ago. Waze was first with this. But now Gmaps has it. But there's still a problem:

Google Route
Waze Route (there is the possibility of a 2nd route which goes past the exit and does a "u-turn" at the next exit; depending on traffic, that is a valid route, too)

The left-turn at the end of the freeway off-ramp doesn't exist any more as you are required to use the jughandle. Waze's route is more complex, but it is legal. Waze wins again.
Bet if you went into Google Mapmaker you'd see an edit war going on between locals trying to correct the map, and reviewers half way around the world that insist the aerials and streetview are reality.

Pretty much.

Google has to be strict with edits just because it's the Maps API. For newly built intersections, you can't reference county GIS maps since it probably won't be added for a while. Google would rather play it safe and be certain that the changes made are legit.
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Re: Re: More winning for Waze

Postby douglasr007 » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:56 pm

bgodette wrote:
douglasr007 wrote:
bgodette wrote:Bet if you went into Google Mapmaker you'd see an edit war going on between locals trying to correct the map, and reviewers half way around the world that insist the aerials and streetview are reality.

Pretty much.

Google has to be strict with edits just because it's the Maps API. For newly built intersections, you can't reference county GIS maps since it probably won't be added for a while. Google would rather play it safe and be certain that the changes made are legit.
You can most certainly reference city/county/state data, at least in the US. Project plans and as constructed are both available by law. It may not always be trivially available online however. While the construction is active those plans are available to the public on site as well.


It's all my phone's fault for using Tapatalk.

I mean you might see "(Planned)" on the newly constructed roads but I think Google makes the road invisible kind of like when we set roads as railroads in the map editor so they don't show up in the app. Confirming the construction is done might take a few news articles. It's just that I know Google's Map Maker is very conservative with edits. They always want sources.
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