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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:33 pm
by AlanOfTheBerg
"Roundabout" and "Normal" were two segment "types" that Waze quoted to us when we were discussing the failure of the mass unlock to actually unlock everything. There was, apparently, another type which was missed in the original mass unlock, so they ran it again, within the last couple of weeks. It may be a leap to suggest that this unlock also had another unintended consequence for some roundabouts, perhaps if they were the other type, which Waze stated, "was old and we don't know what it is for," they got un-roundabouted?

That's really a stretch, but is the only correlation I could come up with with recent activity/database updates that you wouldn't see in the GUI.

Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:26 pm
by AlanOfTheBerg
davipt wrote:I've found another broken one I haven't yet fixed (in terms of segment position and junctions), but unfortunately have updated the name of the whole avenue three days ago roundabout livemap route
That certainly doesn't look like a real roundabout.

Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:27 pm
by AlanOfTheBerg
This roundabout hasn't been touched since Oct-2 and still looks fine.

And this one was updated last in September and looks good today.

I'm not sure what's up...

Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:35 pm
by AlanOfTheBerg
davipt wrote:
crazycomputingdotnet wrote:On those roundabouts, I am not seeing the center node. Are you deleting them?
What is a center node? Never saw one
You could only see them in Cartouche, so I do not believe this is the case, here. There is a node, invisible in WME, at the center of a roundabout which actually defines the center and the roundabout object itself. If it gets deleted, then the roads cease to be a roundabout, and they go back to normal segments.

Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:10 am
by AlanOfTheBerg
Why are you bridging segments of a roundabout?

Roundabout flags disapearing

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:50 am
by AlanOfTheBerg
Pretty sure Waze rarely, if ever anymore, will do geometry adjustments based on drives. That made sense long ago when there were not very many editors, but today there are enough editors that that type of process is no longer necessary.

Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:24 am
by Daknife
Draw in the connecting roads first and then make the roundabout. I'm not the expert, (That's Alan) I only have a couple roundabouts in my entire state, but looking around your links I'm seeing some pretty poor looking circles. Even ones that shouldn't need anything but the basic connect the cross streets, draw the roundabout and name it.

The prime example of this is the Fonte Luminosa Rotary just up the road a bit (to the north west) from the bad circle you linked to us. Why did a basic circle need all the manual adjustments to the point that it's not really a circle anymore? Me thinks you are making the process harder than it needs to be.

Heck it would be slightly too large but you could fix the Luminosa circle in a couple clicks by just drawing a new roundabout over it and then naming the segments. I did it, but of course not being on the ROTW server, I couldn't save the change.

Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:26 am
by floppyrod84
No need to bridge it, just select the extra nodes after you've cleaned the roundabout up, and press delete.
Best practice is to redraw from scratch though.

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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:30 am
by floppyrod84
Auto adjust is dead and buried. Has been for a while.

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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:25 am
by floppyrod84
A while... At least a year. It must be. And auto adjust, I'm talking about geometry changes, it still updates road directions etc.

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