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Correcting a roundabaout that is a truly a big junction.

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:18 am
by wohi
Hi there.

Every morning i drive over a big junction that mapped as a roundabout and thus waze gives out wrong instructions.
I wanted to correct this now so the instructions would match the actual driving trough that junction, my problem is now that i can not remove the original roundabout part. The delete icon is not highlighted.

Do i have to remove all the connecting roads and build it from scratch up? If that is the way it works i will do it, but i don't want to delete several roads and in the end that segment still refuses to be deleted.

Some side information:
Most people think of that junction as a roundabout, it is even named that way, but in reality it is a overly complicated crossroad. During rush hours it gets so bad that they have up to five police officers there to make it work.

Kind regards wohi

Re: Correcting a roundabaout that is a truly a big junction.

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:10 am
by dmcconachie
Sounds like it's locked so deleting surrounding roads won't help. Give us a permalink and we can take a look.

Re: Re: Correcting a roundabaout that is a truly a big junct

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 6:30 pm
by dmcconachie
fvwazing wrote:Waze will not have any difficulty counting but the driver may not always recognize how that count relates to real life.
It's a while since I came across one but historically what Iain says is correct.

Correcting a roundabaout that is a truly a big junction.

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:58 am
by fvwazing
Svx-biker worked last on that one, send him a PM with your suggestions.

Correcting a roundabaout that is a truly a big junction.

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:49 pm
by fvwazing
Waze will not have any difficulty counting but the driver may not always recognize how that count relates to real life.

Re: Re: Correcting a roundabaout that is a truly a big junct

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:45 am
by fvwazing
dmcconachie wrote:
fvwazing wrote:Waze will not have any difficulty counting but the driver may not always recognize how that count relates to real life.
It's a while since I came across one but historically what Iain says is correct.
Technically correct, yes, having an incoming and an outgoing road from the same node is asking for trouble. Wrong in the sense that Waze does not have "trouble" counting, or does not "care" to give the right instructions. Attributing human emotions to machinery (Anthropomorphism) annoys me. At the same time I do occasionally myself "stray off the path of objectivity" when I get "fooled" by Waze :lol:. Never mind.

Re: Correcting a roundabaout that is a truly a big junction.

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:45 pm
by iainhouse
It is likely that, as it is currently set up, the roundabout instructions will not work properly anyway.

On the SW part of the roundabout, the entry and exit are connected to the same junction node. Whilst drivers coming south on Ratswegbrücke will probably correctly get no turn instructions, Waze will have difficulty counting the junctions for anyone on the roundabout section.

Re: Correcting a roundabaout that is a truly a big junction.

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:11 am
by TonyG-UK
Sounds like you don't have permission to delete the roundabout. Post a permalink.

Re: Correcting a roundabaout that is a truly a big junction.

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:24 am
by wohi

Re: Correcting a roundabaout that is a truly a big junction.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 10:03 pm
by wohi
I will try to contact Svx-biker and see if we can find a solution for this.

But although everyone calls this thing a roundabout, there is not a single part of that junction that works like one.
If i am driving south on Ratswegbrücke and i want to go east on Hanauer Landstraße Waze tells me to "take the first exit of the roundabout". Since there are 3 lanes to chose from, and i just have to take the next exit, i will use the right one and by doing that i end up on the autobahn.

This junction a perfect example of bad road planing.