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While you were editing, the elements...

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:25 am
by rj_mckenzie
"While you were editing, the elements you're trying to save have been modified and/or deleted.
Please refresh and try again."

I see the above message alot at times when editing in my area. It's very annoying. It's coming from roads that I've moved slightly or ones that I've deleted to redo. The new roads are attaching to touching the area the old one was. I've erased browser data in Chrome, I've refreshed, ect. Still happening..

Am I the only one that is having this issue?

Re: While you were editing, the elements...

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:23 pm
by AlanOfTheBerg
kodi75 wrote:
Caradellino wrote: It is especially delicate, when you delete segments to redo them. I recomend to save after deleting and then perform the redo.
Just to clarify - I recall the wiki prefers that, if at all possible, to reuse existing segments rather than deleting and redrawing. There is speed and other data already associated with segments that would be lost.
That's true. Very much situation dependent, too.

Re: While you were editing, the elements...

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:02 pm
by anti-S-crap
RJ_McKenzie wrote:"While you were editing, the elements you're trying to save have been modified and/or deleted.
Please refresh and try again."
When I run into this error. I just hit the permalink to refresh. You would think that you would lose your changes queried in the save button. But you don't (most of the time). Everything is all ready saved.

Re: While you were editing, the elements...

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:26 pm
by Caradellino
RJ_McKenzie wrote:Am I the only one that is having this issue?
Surely not ;)

It happens to me too when I save too many edits at once. It is especially delicate, when you delete segments to redo them. I recomend to save after deleting and then perform the redo. Sometimes you still get the message, if you happen to experiance a sync error, but far less often.

Hope this works for you too :)

Re: While you were editing, the elements...

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:28 pm
by Caradellino
kodi75 wrote:wiki prefers that, if at all possible, to reuse existing segments rather than deleting and redrawing. There is speed and other data already associated with segments that would be lost.
Agreed, but this does not apply in every case: i.e. when I find unfinished roads with a bad geometry and lots of unnecessary nodes, drawn or paved long ago, I simply delete them for they never had shown in the client and so no data is lost - and redoing them is far more efficient than spending time cleaning the geometry.

Re: While you were editing, the elements...

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:07 pm
by harling
anti-S-crap wrote:
RJ_McKenzie wrote:"While you were editing, the elements you're trying to save have been modified and/or deleted. Please refresh and try again."
When I run into this error. I just hit the permalink to refresh. You would think that you would lose your changes queried in the save button. But you don't (most of the time). Everything is all ready saved.
Sometimes a sequence of edits makes reference to a map element (e.g., a junction or road) that was deleted by an earlier edit. Closed-loop roads (only possible these days via basemap or roundabout creation) seem to get that a lot.
svx-biker wrote:Could be the same as here. Maybe we should merge these topics or have a link to one and close others?
That is the most likely cause, since everyone is experiencing this lag. If you delete a junction, hit "save", and the junction is still there when the map refreshes, if you try to delete it again it will generate this error, because it is already queued for deletion from the map database.

Re: While you were editing, the elements...

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:16 pm
by kodi75
Caradellino wrote: It is especially delicate, when you delete segments to redo them. I recomend to save after deleting and then perform the redo.
Just to clarify - I recall the wiki prefers that, if at all possible, to reuse existing segments rather than deleting and redrawing. There is speed and other data already associated with segments that would be lost.

Re: While you were editing, the elements...

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:17 pm
by rj_mckenzie
Ah I didn't know that it kept speed an other data. I've never seen that anywhere in the interface. The maps around me are so bad from not many users here using Waze. It is sometimes just easier to just wipe out the road and start over.

Re: While you were editing, the elements...

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:38 am
by svx-biker
Could be the same as here. Maybe we should merge these topics or have a link to one and close others?