Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

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Re: Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby witfits » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:49 pm

That's good to know. I spoke with several co-workers and many could care less about map editing. Rather, they simply like using Waze to get from point A to point B.

Still, since we're wishing, I'd like to add a comment to the UR.
"Hey, can you tell me where Newark Avenue is closed"?
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Re: Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby witfits » Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:12 pm

I read through that last night. I suppose, once one gets through the gray area, we could chose that option. Thus upsetting the daily drivers but accommodating the new/out-of-town commuter.
It makes sense to try and keep the non-familiar driver from last minute, potentially dangerous decisions.

Now, I'm back to how do I keep the daily commuters from uninstalling? I know; sorry. Thanks for letting me arrive, where you've been for awhile. :)


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How to keep from researching the "UR" OR the "auto-detect" over and over and over again? :cry:
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Re: Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby witfits » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:52 pm

I always allow the turn/route as it's allowed during greatest portion of the day.

One could argue that these restrictions occur during the mayhem of rush hour. Our job is to move them safely and quickly, and it's likely that the lion's share of these drivers know what they're up against during this period.
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Re: Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby witfits » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:36 pm

My first "best practice" is don't try to get creative with the penalty system trying to dissuade the routing engine from choosing a particular route.
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Re: Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby witfits » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:24 pm

I guess there are users that download the app, fire it up, and don't read their emails, never go to waze.com, and therefore think their feedback goes unanswered. I'd happily provide details via email if they wrote to me and expressed their frustration. Anything to get them to reduce the daily, multiple UR's on this issue.

I'm convinced they have no clue that a feature, that may seem simple, is simply not available. Will it ever be available? Next week? Next year? 2018?

It makes me wonder how many uninstall and move to the next, or back to the old, navigation app.

For now, do you just close the UR? If so, as "Solved", or "Not Identified"?
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Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby witfits » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:51 pm

I know this is well discussed, but can I get some of the boiled-down thoughts/decisions on this topic?

You can almost see the wazer throwing their phone out the window :roll:
https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-77.05852&lat=38.91759&zoom=5&layers=BFTFFTTTFTTFTTTTTTTTTFT

Please share your best practices for managing time-restricted turns and throughways, and socializing the current lack of support for this scenario.
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Re: Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby CBenson » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:59 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
CBenson wrote:The problem is this is the infamous reversing Rock Creek Pkwy.

Totally agree. Waze says time- based turn restrictions and reversing roadways are interrelated and will likely be new features at the same time.

Right, they are certainly interrelated, as you can provide the necessary information about reversing roads through time restricted turns. However, it seems so much easier to deal with reversing roads specifically than time restricted turns in general. Just force the average speeds to zero in the direction which is closed for the appropriate time. I wish we didn't have to wait for full blown time restricted turns to be implemented to have the Rock Creek Pkwy route correctly.
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Re: Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby CBenson » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:39 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
witfits wrote:I always allow the turn/route as it's allowed during greatest portion of the day

There has been recent discussion, perhaps in the wiki documentation forum, about changing the recommendation to always restrict.

The problem is this is the infamous reversing Rock Creek Pkwy. We are not just talking about a left turn restriction, where the wazer can be routed a through a turn a few lights down or right around the block as the wazer would need to do during rush hour. If we always restrict here (and consistently restrict all the other entrances to the pkwy), we would be effectively taking the pkwy (a significant commuter route) off the map.
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Re: Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby CBenson » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:21 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
witfits wrote:For now, do you just close the UR? If so, as "Solved", or "Not Identified"?

Solved. Then it is up to them to contact you because in the email they get, they have your Wazer name/forum name.

The "Not Identified" email also gives them your Wazer name/forum name.
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Re: Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby CBenson » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:07 pm

I agree, I don't think you can get any further boiled-down thoughts on this subject. There is just no good way to handle the situation. Thus, you will see the landmarks, the road names indication the problem (although the short primary section and its name I don't think will help anything at all).
We can either restrict the turns have angry users that want to use the road when its permitted or we can keep the turn open and have angry users like this one.
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