Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

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Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby witfits » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:51 pm

I know this is well discussed, but can I get some of the boiled-down thoughts/decisions on this topic?

You can almost see the wazer throwing their phone out the window :roll:
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Please share your best practices for managing time-restricted turns and throughways, and socializing the current lack of support for this scenario.
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Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:00 pm

What do you mean by socializing? It's well known, posted about in the forum, been entered in the FAQ for quite some time, and @WazeMapping mentions that from time to time as well. What else are you suggesting? I'm not sure how you create something more proactive to alert drivers in the app. Drivers bitch enough already about too many pop-ups.
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Re: Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby CBenson » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:07 pm

I agree, I don't think you can get any further boiled-down thoughts on this subject. There is just no good way to handle the situation. Thus, you will see the landmarks, the road names indication the problem (although the short primary section and its name I don't think will help anything at all).
We can either restrict the turns have angry users that want to use the road when its permitted or we can keep the turn open and have angry users like this one.
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Re: Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby witfits » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:24 pm

I guess there are users that download the app, fire it up, and don't read their emails, never go to waze.com, and therefore think their feedback goes unanswered. I'd happily provide details via email if they wrote to me and expressed their frustration. Anything to get them to reduce the daily, multiple UR's on this issue.

I'm convinced they have no clue that a feature, that may seem simple, is simply not available. Will it ever be available? Next week? Next year? 2018?

It makes me wonder how many uninstall and move to the next, or back to the old, navigation app.

For now, do you just close the UR? If so, as "Solved", or "Not Identified"?
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Re: Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby witfits » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:36 pm

My first "best practice" is don't try to get creative with the penalty system trying to dissuade the routing engine from choosing a particular route.
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Re: Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:48 pm

witfits wrote:I'm convinced they have no clue that a feature, that may seem simple, is simply not available. Will it ever be available? Next week? Next year? 2018?

I agree. Until we have the ability to communicate directly with the drivers, we can't get this out there. I doubt waze will ever largely publicize, such as on facebook, a "feature we don't support" as that's a killer. We do not know when time-restricted turns will be available. They have stated they are working on it, which is better than, "we're looking into it."

witfits wrote:For now, do you just close the UR? If so, as "Solved", or "Not Identified"?

Solved. Then it is up to them to contact you because in the email they get, they have your Wazer name/forum name.
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Re: Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby witfits » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:52 pm

I always allow the turn/route as it's allowed during greatest portion of the day.

One could argue that these restrictions occur during the mayhem of rush hour. Our job is to move them safely and quickly, and it's likely that the lion's share of these drivers know what they're up against during this period.
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Re: Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:56 pm

witfits wrote:I always allow the turn/route as it's allowed during greatest portion of the day

There has been recent discussion, perhaps in the wiki documentation forum, about changing the recommendation to always restrict.
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Re: Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby witfits » Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:12 pm

I read through that last night. I suppose, once one gets through the gray area, we could chose that option. Thus upsetting the daily drivers but accommodating the new/out-of-town commuter.
It makes sense to try and keep the non-familiar driver from last minute, potentially dangerous decisions.

Now, I'm back to how do I keep the daily commuters from uninstalling? I know; sorry. Thanks for letting me arrive, where you've been for awhile. :)


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How to keep from researching the "UR" OR the "auto-detect" over and over and over again? :cry:
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Re: Summary — Time Restricted Turns and Throughways

Postby CBenson » Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:21 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
witfits wrote:For now, do you just close the UR? If so, as "Solved", or "Not Identified"?

Solved. Then it is up to them to contact you because in the email they get, they have your Wazer name/forum name.

The "Not Identified" email also gives them your Wazer name/forum name.
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