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Re: Un-named segments for better navigation

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:06 am

As an example from my previous post, see this segment: https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=6&lat ... s=66095587

And, if you have Livemap navigation add-on, see how the instructions come out:

Into Clackamas Town Center (mall): http://www.waze.com/livemap/?zoom=15&lo ... g=70258916

Onto Sunnyside Rd westbound: http://www.waze.com/livemap/?zoom=15&lo ... g=61551280

That unnamed segment in the middle makes it so Waze will give a "keep left" or "keep right" the right place, and because of it being unnamed, Waze in the app automatically announces the name of the next named segment, which is exactly what we want.
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Re: Un-named segments for better navigation

Postby Machete808 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:02 am

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:Vicki, the segment which should be unnamed is this one: https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=6&lat ... s=12925503. There's no reason for it to be named as it will never be shown on the navigation guidance. Then you can use two named ramp segments (one ramp segment named "to E H3 Fwy / Kaneohe" and the other named "to E H201 Fwy / Honolulu") at the split and both will be announced because the previous (long) segment was unnamed.

There's no need for all this extra kludgy stuff to be done.


Huh! OK, simpler is better. Thanks.
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Re: Un-named segments for better navigation

Postby kentsmith9 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:18 am

I thought we had a solution to this problem with what is in the Junction Style Guide. As I said earlier, this solution has the typical problem of masking and isolating the data that tells Waze routing what traffic is headed one direction or another.
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Re: Un-named segments for better navigation

Postby CBenson » Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:44 am

vickimachado wrote:Permalink:

https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=5&lat ... s=12947865

Just to circle back on my issue noted earlier. Adding a short unnamed FREEWAY road segment produced the navigational prompt I wanted at the split between the EH-3 freeway and the EH-201. Now as you approach the split, you're told to stay to the right to get on the EH-201. That warns drivers so they don't find themselves bearing left onto the H-3:

Previously I had tried an unnamed RAMP segment before the split and it didn't work. I'm sure that's explained somewhere in the Wiki, but I didn't get it.

I agree with Alan that all ramp segments with the entering ramp unnamed would be the most straightforward solution. I wanted to note that adding the short FREEWAY road segment before the split for the EH-3 and EH-201 indeed causes a prompt to "exit right" to get on the EH-201. However, it also eliminates the prompt to "keep left" to get on the EH-3. You've switched which direction doesn't get a instruction.
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Re: Un-named segments for better navigation

Postby Machete808 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:00 pm

Damn, really? Then would what Alan suggested be better?
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Re: Un-named segments for better navigation

Postby CBenson » Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:13 pm

Yes, I think Alan's solution will work.
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Re: Un-named segments for better navigation

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:34 pm

vickimachado wrote:Damn, really? Then would what Alan suggested be better?

I still can come up with a Good Idea every now and again! :geek:
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Re: Un-named segments for better navigation

Postby Machete808 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 10:37 pm

Now and then! I'll revise when I get home!
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Re: Un-named segments for better navigation

Postby Nacron » Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:58 am

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:Vicki, the segment which should be unnamed is this one: https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=6&lat ... s=12925503. There's no reason for it to be named as it will never be shown on the navigation guidance. Then you can use two named ramp segments (one ramp segment named "to E H3 Fwy / Kaneohe" and the other named "to E H201 Fwy / Honolulu") at the split and both will be announced because the previous (long) segment was unnamed.

There's no need for all this extra kludgy stuff to be done.

What will show if there's a map report on the unnamed segment? Police reported on unnamed road?

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Re: Un-named segments for better navigation

Postby Machete808 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:26 am

Nacron wrote:What will show if there's a map report on the unnamed segment? Police reported on unnamed road?


I think that is an issue. But if you weigh it against a driver not being given enough of a warning about bearing left or bearing right, I side with the navigational advantage. This system isn't perfect.

Also, if I figured right, the unnamed segment in question is 311 meters, so I'm thinking that's a low risk.
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