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Re: how to edit two ways roads junctions?

Postby davipt » Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:46 pm

zadigre wrote:Google Maps is far from perfect... but usually, it very good in North America (at least where I've used in Canada and the USA).


Yeah but USA is not the world :P Let's say we have a street that translates literally as "Street of the flowers". It doesn't even matter where the "of" or "the" comes from, it's the name everybody uses, and the name on a plaque on the corner of the street. But no, Google decided those little things are worthless and called it "Street Flowers". Hence the 99.9% of the streets are wrong over here. On the other hand, before Google bought waze, it was quite easy to identify editors copying street names from Google. Oh and the aerials are completely out of place, randomly, whilst the previous ones were perfect. </rant>
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Re: how to edit two ways roads junctions?

Postby zadigre » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:43 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
zadigre wrote:this is simple and clear... but it does not cover the situation when two dual carriageway roads intersect.

That is true. I think we expect people to extrapolate, or think things like "this could apply to my situation, too" kind of stuff. Maybe the page could be updated with some more examples.


thanks for your feedback...

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I don't think I will be more than level 1 (or maybe 2 if they upgrade my level) in the future... but at least, I will do a better job with all the feedback I got.
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Re: how to edit two ways roads junctions?

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:14 pm

zadigre wrote:this is simple and clear... but it does not cover the situation when two dual carriageway roads intersect.

That is true. I think we expect people to extrapolate, or think things like "this could apply to my situation, too" kind of stuff. Maybe the page could be updated with some more examples.
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Re: how to edit two ways roads junctions?

Postby zadigre » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:12 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
zadigre wrote:Waze should add a section for this type of junctions in the wiki...
it would be quite easier if we had a clear picture of what should and shouldn't be done in those situations.

https://www.waze.com/wiki/Junction_Style_Guide#Bow_tie_intersections


this is simple and clear... but it does not cover the situation when two dual carriageway roads intersect.
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Re: how to edit two ways roads junctions?

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:06 pm

zadigre wrote:Waze should add a section for this type of junctions in the wiki...
it would be quite easier if we had a clear picture of what should and shouldn't be done in those situations.

https://www.waze.com/wiki/Junction_Style_Guide#Bow_tie_intersections
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Re: how to edit two ways roads junctions?

Postby zadigre » Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:56 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:Yeah, all segments meet at a single junction. Not everyone likes them, but they do work very well.



I did this once for a split road that had the two segments more than 15m away (it was not possible to keep them under 15m)... and it worked really fine.

Waze should add a section for this type of junctions in the wiki...
it would be quite easier if we had a clear picture of what should and shouldn't be done in those situations.
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Re: how to edit two ways roads junctions?

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:47 pm

zadigre wrote:
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:My gut reaction is to say that a bowtie may be a good way to deal with this.


you mean linking the segments from the side streets right in the middle or farther point of the main split street?

Yeah, all segments meet at a single junction. Not everyone likes them, but they do work very well.
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Re: how to edit two ways roads junctions?

Postby zadigre » Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:26 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:My gut reaction is to say that a bowtie may be a good way to deal with this.


you mean linking the segments from the side streets right in the middle or farther point of the main split street?
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Re: how to edit two ways roads junctions?

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Feb 04, 2014 6:08 pm

My gut reaction is to say that a bowtie may be a good way to deal with this.
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Re: how to edit two ways roads junctions?

Postby zadigre » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:56 pm

AndyPoms wrote:Wow, that area is a mess... Most of the roads that are typed as "Street" shouldn't be split in that area.

If you follow Boul du Séminaire Nord south from that intersection, you'll see several different styles of junctions. All of which can be greatly simplified by unsplitting the side streets (but this isn't something a level 1 should tackle with out assistance, as the work has to be done in a particular method to preserve some underlying data.

Canada is on the NA Infrastructure (along with the US), and I think that the connections have to be less than 10m to prevent a U-Turn, but I'm not sure...


thanks for your feedback...

do you think it's worth it to "report" this area to the proper forum section so some that knows what he's doing could fix everything?

I just fixed some obvious errors (like u-turn not allowed or not recommanded at all for "important" segments)... but I don't want to mess with unsplitting segments (at least not for now).
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