Flagging long term roadworks but told can't be done?

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Re: Flagging long term roadworks but told can't be done?

Postby atrophicshiner » Thu Mar 04, 2021 8:28 am

Assuming you have already posted in the Australian forum, and the senior editors you mention have already explained things, I'll try provide some opinions from a UK perspective.

Hazard reports made from the application have an expiry period to prevent the map being littered with reports that never disappear. The exact time span they linger is not known but can be influence by other users, confirming the hazard extends the visibility period, while marking it not there will reduce / remove it. The senioritory of the user may also play a part in timings. The screenshot above shows 63 users have confirmed the hazard, extending its visibility.

If your report is located on a road that gets less traffic or users that don't interact with the app, then there is little an editor can do, editors can only add full closures to the map. Editor can map hazards s these are done via the application. You describe 2-way traffic under temporary traffic light control, so the road is open in both directions.

In the UK we have an data feed that adds hazard reports of local authority works to the map that include known (expected) end dates, these therefore could be classed as semi permanent as they linger to the expected end date unless down voting removes them or users comment on them stating they are gone.
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Re: Flagging long term roadworks but told can't be done?

Postby atrophicshiner » Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:24 pm

As they are asking to mark long term roadworks and you state this forum is for reporting events that include roadworks, it might not be a perfect place for this question but I can see when they chose this location.

Rather than just complain about where to post how about also adding some help or even a solution to their question.
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Flagging long term roadworks but told can't be done?

Postby ChairmanNow » Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:14 am

So I've had a roadworks issue in my local area that's lead to an automated traffic signal being installed and a reduction to one lane usage flow control. This issue is due a subsidence situation has been going on for 6 months now and is easily forecast to go another several. Yet at the moment, despite arguments with a fellow more senior map editor who noted that 'nothing can be done' to get it properly marked for the period without say my own almost daily detailed flagging(cut and paste description and take a photo) in Waze as I travel through it. Conversely though, I was able to recently prove a permanent or semi permanent flagging can indeed be applied which I noticed while traveling through an area I regularly traverse which has a near identical issue with the only difference being landslip on to road as opposed to under road subsidence. So now I'm at truly at odds as to why one case can be handled properly and the other seemingly can't in the Waze editor :roll: ...

The (semi)permanent roadworks area (don't have the manually flagged location snapshotted since it disappears in no time at all):

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The manually flagged same format roadworks in my local area:

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Re: Flagging long term roadworks but told can't be done?

Postby ChairmanNow » Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:25 am

miole67 wrote:
ChairmanNow wrote:So I've had a roadworks issue in my local area that's lead to an automated traffic signal being installed and a reduction to one lane usage flow control. This issue is due a subsidence situation has been going on for 6 months now and is easily forecast to go another several. Yet at the moment, despite arguments with a fellow more senior map editor who noted that 'nothing can be done' to get it properly marked for the period without say my own almost daily detailed flagging(cut and paste description and take a photo) in Waze as I travel through it. Conversely though, I was able to recently prove a permanent or semi permanent flagging can indeed be applied which I noticed while traveling through an area I regularly traverse which has a near identical issue with the only difference being landslip on to road as opposed to under road subsidence. So now I'm at truly at odds as to why one case can be handled properly and the other seemingly can't in the Waze editor :roll: ...


The (semi)permanent roadworks area (don't have the manually flagged location snapshotted since it disappears in no time at all):

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In any case, you have chosen the wrong section of the forum to post your message.
Before writing, perhaps you need to read and look for the right section.
This section of the forum is dedicated to events (sports, roadworks, VIP visits, shows ...) that lead to road closures.



Ahh yeah thanks. Being a long time forum participant (on many enthusiast forums since the 90's) the route Waze takes you here from the main web pages doesn't mention localised forum subsections whatsoever I can assure you, so I didn't expect go looking for it like I might normally do when I hit a forum board index (especially in the clunky old phpBB format being run here). I only stumbled upon this today upon coming back via the Waze website on a more obscure link that I can't even find again..

LostInMyMaps wrote:Hey ChairmanNow!

Thanks for your post. I've moved your post to the Australian forums :)

I hope the above replies have helped. We'd certainly like to be able to add a permanent hazard for you, but only Waze partners can do that - in your example the NSW Transport Management Centre. Even us senior editors can't do that.

Can I suggest you add a feature request at https://waze.uservoice.com/forums/59225 ... uggestions to ask for editors to be able to add permanent hazards to the map? :)

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I thank you for assisting with that. I will head over there and get stuck into it with the locals (should I say, it's automatically cross-posting this anyway). That's an excellent call in this particular case as I cannot see the NSW TMC (or RMS) getting around to the posting themselves on the issue, so a user submittable version would be just the ticket.
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Re: Flagging long term roadworks but told can't be done?

Postby LostInMyMaps » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:31 am

Hey ChairmanNow!

Thanks for your post. I've moved your post to the Australian forums :)

I hope the above replies have helped. We'd certainly like to be able to add a permanent hazard for you, but only Waze partners can do that - in your example the NSW Transport Management Centre. Even us senior editors can't do that.

Can I suggest you add a feature request at https://waze.uservoice.com/forums/59225 ... uggestions to ask for editors to be able to add permanent hazards to the map? :)

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Re: Flagging long term roadworks but told can't be done?

Postby miole67 » Thu Mar 04, 2021 9:38 am

ChairmanNow wrote:So I've had a roadworks issue in my local area that's lead to an automated traffic signal being installed and a reduction to one lane usage flow control. This issue is due a subsidence situation has been going on for 6 months now and is easily forecast to go another several. Yet at the moment, despite arguments with a fellow more senior map editor who noted that 'nothing can be done' to get it properly marked for the period without say my own almost daily detailed flagging(cut and paste description and take a photo) in Waze as I travel through it. Conversely though, I was able to recently prove a permanent or semi permanent flagging can indeed be applied which I noticed while traveling through an area I regularly traverse which has a near identical issue with the only difference being landslip on to road as opposed to under road subsidence. So now I'm at truly at odds as to why one case can be handled properly and the other seemingly can't in the Waze editor :roll: ...

The (semi)permanent roadworks area (don't have the manually flagged location snapshotted since it disappears in no time at all):

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In any case, you have chosen the wrong section of the forum to post your message.
Before writing, perhaps you need to read and look for the right section.
This section of the forum is dedicated to events (sports, roadworks, VIP visits, shows ...) that lead to road closures.
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Re: Flagging long term roadworks but told can't be done?

Postby miole67 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:07 pm

atrophicshiner wrote:As they are asking to mark long term roadworks and you state this forum is for reporting events that include roadworks, it might not be a perfect place for this question but I can see when they chose this location.

Rather than just complain about where to post how about also adding some help or even a solution to their question.


As written above, there are national forums. Coordinators and senior editors from many countries have the ability to post alerts on the map.
That is the place to write.
In the Italian forum we have a section dedicated to these requests.
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