[Script] WME Junction Angle Info

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Re: [Script] WME Junction Angle Info

Postby age4670 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 2:42 am

Can confirm that happens and that it is by design (it's how I found out about the u-turn penalty not applying to street segments).
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Re: [Script] WME Junction Angle Info

Postby Leorenaud » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:07 am

Leorenaud wrote:Haven't noticed the change in the script.
But if it is it is a good change.
Because there is no uturn penalty with only street segments. That's been this way for years now. See my post and tested by ituajr. See following posts.
Although it seems only be configured this way in INTL server. Regarding this post.

Back after my PC I do see the change.
But the new version is not completely correct.
There still is a median u-turn penalty when one of the parallel streets is of type PS or higher.
Now if one of the parallel roads is of type Street (or lower) the u-turn check is off. But that's not correct. Then there is still a u-turn penalty.
Only if both parallel roads are of type street (or lower) only than there is no median u-turn penalty.
Can you please update the script?
Thanks.
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Re: [Script] WME Junction Angle Info

Postby ituajr » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:26 pm

Leorenaud wrote:Only if both parallel roads are of type street (or lower) only than there is no median u-turn penalty.

My testing in my Cobber Pedy testing area (Australia), as documented in forum posting, shows that the type of the OUT-segment is the only relevant factor. There is no median U-turn penalty for turn from a Primary Street to a normal street. This is slightly different to the quoted statement above. This route demonstrates that.

I don't know whether the rules are different for other countries or other servers.
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Re: [Script] WME Junction Angle Info

Postby Leorenaud » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:12 am

ituajr wrote:
Leorenaud wrote:Only if both parallel roads are of type street (or lower) only than there is no median u-turn penalty.

My testing in my Cobber Pedy testing area (Australia), as documented in forum posting, shows that the type of the OUT-segment is the only relevant factor. There is no median U-turn penalty for turn from a Primary Street to a normal street. This is slightly different to the quoted statement above. This route demonstrates that.

I don't know whether the rules are different for other countries or other servers.

Hmm. Ok. Thanks.
I just had a UR about such a u-turn prevention, but there was a PR in stead of a Street.
I will look more closely into this.
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Re: [Script] WME Junction Angle Info

Postby ituajr » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:19 am

Leorenaud wrote:I just had a UR about such a u-turn prevention, but there was a PR in stead of a Street.

I didn't test PR/PLR, nor ramps or narrow streets. Testing the "normal" street types was tedious enough!
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Re: [Script] WME Junction Angle Info

Postby Leorenaud » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:05 am

I noticed there is a difference in what is the incoming segment (A) and the outgoing segment (C).
A (PS) -> B(St) -> C(St) is not penalized
but
A (St) -> B(St) -> C(PS) is penalized
Which imo does not make sense.
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Re: [Script] WME Junction Angle Info

Postby ituajr » Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:26 am

Leorenaud wrote:I noticed there is a difference in what is the incoming segment (A) and the outgoing segment (C).
A (PS) -> B(St) -> C(St) is not penalized
but
A (St) -> B(St) -> C(PS) is penalized
Which imo does not make sense.

Well, that's a useful confirmation that the rule I deduced for Australia applies in another country.

As for making sense... I suppose it made sense to the person who implemented it. If only we had access to the documentation of these design decisions, it would make our task a lot easier.
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Re: [Script] WME Junction Angle Info

Postby Leorenaud » Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:14 am

Leorenaud wrote:I noticed there is a difference in what is the incoming segment (A) and the outgoing segment (C).
A (PS) -> B(St) -> C(St) is not penalized
but
A (St) -> B(St) -> C(PS) is penalized
Which imo does not make sense.

Again an example where a median u-turn penalty is applied from St to PS,
But not from PS to St
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