kentsmith9 wrote:When present they create a new city entry because that segment does not match the other segments around them. Once they are identified you simply update the segment state name. I am currently running a test in https://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=251&t=81200 to track when the city layer gets corrected without posting the entries in the city smudge form. It may turn out they will not get updated ever without using the form.
The "no state" smudge would be an easy check because Validator would only need to look for a stateID of 1. Not all smudges are due to the no state issue though. I corrected "F, Michigan" a few weeks ago; and the combination of "Canton, MI", "Canton Township, MI", "Canton Township (no state)", and "Canton Twp, MI" was a fun exercise too.
In short, true editor-created smudges can always be removed without using the form (if you're impatient or it only affects a small number of segments). Changes to Waze-provided city polygons require you to use the form though. While mass editing is obviously discouraged as noted in the wiki, you can make a smudge or any legitimate editor-created city disappear by changing the city name in WME or making it No City, and a regular tile update takes care of it. You could mark all segments and objects associated with a Waze-provided city as "No City" or something else, and it would never update the city unless you use the smudged city form.
I've been doing some detailed research with some examples in Michigan after GizmoGuy411 had me look at an issue remaining after a name change using the city smudge form. The "name" changed, but the "English name" did not, which created an issue where--from a WME display standpoint--there are two neighboring "Addison, Michigan" options that are completely identical. The only way to tell the difference is using Colour Highlights or looking at the JSON response from the web request. Right now, my thoughts are still fairly haphazard and stream of consciousness, but I was eventually hoping to post soon with that and a few other smudge-related items.
Kent, you're actually the person that I eventually wanted to touch base with because it looks like there was a wiki update from mid-February that listed out the options under "Need assistance from the Waze team" with no guidance on what each option would do based on people's experience with using the form. I know that there is a dead thread in the Wiki Updates forum discussing smudges to some extent, but perhaps we can create a page update thread specifically for the smudge city and continue discussion there, or you could forgive me for resurrecting the old one? The wiki really needs to provide more insight into name versus english name, explain how Waze-provided cities have english names while editor-created ones do not, and a few other things.