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Re: junctions with drivable and non-drivable

PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:10 pm
by dbraughlr
A Railroad segment must not be at a junction with another type.

A Runway/taxiway segment must not be at a junction with another type.

There must not be a junction with any drivable type and any non-drivable type.

A ramp must be connected at both ends and the junction at one end must have a freeway/highway/ramp segment.

Re: junctions with drivable and non-drivable

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:46 am
by dbraughlr
pumrum wrote:Highlight Non-drivable segments that form junctions with segments of a different type.

I think that junctions between walking path, boardwalk, and stairway are fine.

Re: ramp type for at-grade connector

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:50 am
by dbraughlr
CBenson wrote:These segments have been ramps for quite some time and I've never found enough of a reason to change them.

Yes, those should fail validation. Then someone would have a good reason to change them if the wiki is not reason enough.

Re: [Script] WME Validator 0.6.3 (BETA) / 12.02.2014

PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:16 am
by dbraughlr
levin wrote:we also have many old streets with spaces instead of names

If this is the only reason, then this is a good reason to have a separate validation that the name must contain something more than whitespace and punctuation. Thus two letters are valid, two spaces are not.

Re: WME Toolbox

PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:38 pm
by dbraughlr
sketch wrote:Toolbox helps to some extent, but having to comb at Zoom 4 to load street type segments takes much, much longer than a Zoom 0 or 1 scan.

It sounds like a fix to Toolbox would be the best. Toolbox should allow the entry of some selection criteria and along with suitably limiting criteria, a scan over a wider area.

Re: construction zone roads

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:31 am
by dbraughlr
berestovskyy wrote:19.02.2014 v0.7.0:
- UPD #101 'Closed road': default marker is '(Closed)'

I think what we are saying is that "(closed)" in a new way to exclude or include roads for a US construction zone.

Any US road name containing "CONST ZN" (and some variants) is invalid in all contexts regardless of construction zone exclusion. The error is that the name is invalid and should be updated either because the construction zone has expired or the name needs to be changed to have the "(closed)" suffix.

Re: construction zone roads

PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:07 pm
by dbraughlr
All three should be detected without parentheses and case-blind, the first two identify a construction zone road for which error and warnings may optionally be suppressed. The third identifies a construction zone which needs to be updated.

Re: ramp as non-highway connector

PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:28 am
by dbraughlr
kentsmith9 wrote:Unless someone can identify the problem

Simply put, there is not Road Type for connectors below the class of highways (freeways, MH, mH).
(I highly favor adding a proper road type for connectors; perhaps this is what "Service road" was originally intended to do.)

For normal classification Streets (primary street, street, and the obsolete service road), any connector is the lower of the two ends.

For Other - drivable (dirt roads, parking lot roads, and so forth) and all Non-drivable types, any connector is just whatever it is.

Ramp is a highway classification in the taxonomy of Road types.
Using Ramp for a street is a misuse of a highway road type for non-highway function.

    • Freeway
    • Major highway
    • Minor highway
    • Ramp
    • Primary street
    • Street
    • Service road

Re: non-drivable segment makes a junction with a drivable

PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:40 am
by dbraughlr
petervdveen wrote:I would say, don't mark it as an error when:
- the non-driveable is a dead-end road.

We consider that someone has arrived at his destination when he reaches the limit of the drivable roadway. What is a scenario where we would attach a non-drivable road to a drivable road? Such a situation would lead to Waze attempting to route over the non-drivable road. What do you have in mind? Is this for walking directions or bicycles?

Re: construction zone roads

PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:27 am
by dbraughlr
berestovskyy wrote:So I'm not sure if Validator should suppress issues at the "not closed" road :?

A report for obsolete CONST ZN markers will be added.

I agree. I see two independent options to filter the report:
  1. Omit any roadway with name containing "closed".
  2. Omit any roadway with name not containing (at least) one of {"closed", "construction", "CONST"}.
(Neither, either, or both options may be selected.)