[Script] WME Validator 1.1.19 / 04.06.2016

[Olestas]

Wait, what? U-turns work? They don't for me... And what with the junction boxes?

[no1ne]

Junction boxes is the planed future for junction ...

[sketch]

Wait, what? U-turns work? They don't for me... And what with the junction boxes?

We're talking about split roads (dual carriageways) here.

[ditchi56]

Additional validation request:

I believe "parking lot" and "gas station" landmark/place's suppress Waze's monitoring of traffic speed. Therefore could Validator please report parking lots and gas stations overlapping roads of "street" level and above?

[sketch]

I don't think Validator looks at the Places layer at all, though it is a nice idea.

[no1ne]

tricky to code and
get lat and lon of nodes of roads of "street" level and above
compare them to lat & lon of each nodes of POI Pl and gas ...

[ditchi56]

tricky to code

It may well be impractical to test for this.
I've no idea what can reasonably be done and what can't. I can only put forward a suggestion when I have an idea, and let the big brains decide what it is feasible.

[ditchi56]

Additional validation request (hopefully this one will be a bit easier to implement):

When we have a part-time toll road, typically toll during the day and free overnight, we want Waze to try to avoid the toll for people who have "avoid tolls" set on. While not diverting people overnight.

This has been implemented with apparent success by drawing two roads on top each other, one set up as a toll road, and the other non-toll but time-restricted. There's an example here, on the boundary on the London Congestion Charging Zone. Note the little kink in the middle of each segment so that they can both be seen at high zoom on WME, while looking like a single road on the client.

Validator complains about this, coming up with errors 118, 119 & 78. Would it be possible to suppress these three messages for two overlapping segments linking the same pair of nodes when all of the following are true:
- the two segments have identical name, road type & direction
- exactly one of the segments is a toll road
- the segment which not a toll road has a time restriction

[kentsmith9]

Validator complains about this, coming up with errors 118, 119 & 78.

I just created a similar setup in my test area and found the following:

1. 118 and 119 seem resolvable by having the 2 degrees of separation recommended. I don't see why you have them actually overlapping if you then have a massive bump in the middle that will clearly be seen in the client. I have the two roads parallel each other by a small gap and it seems fine.

2. 78 is there for routing. Just split the toll segment and you: a) fix any routing issue if you start in one of those two segments, and b) solve the error message.

[ditchi56]

Validator complains about this, coming up with errors 118, 119 & 78.

I just created a similar setup in my test area and found the following:

1. 118 and 119 seem resolvable by having the 2 degrees of separation recommended. I don't see why you have them actually overlapping if you then have a massive bump in the middle that will clearly be seen in the client. I have the two roads parallel each other by a small gap and it seems fine.

2. 78 is there for routing. Just split the toll segment and you: a) fix any routing issue if you start in one of those two segments, and b) solve the error message.

1. The two segments must start and end overlapping perfectly. If you have the 2 degrees of separation, you risk Waze generating unwanted "keep left" / "keep right" instructions. There is no massive bump in the middle, the central separation is kept small so that it is only visible in WME at high zoom, and not at all noticeable in the client.

Two parallel roads with a small gap would appear as two roads in the client, which would be an inappropriate rendering of a single road on the ground.

2. This solution has been running for six months now with no reported routing problems. I'm not sure whether this is because the segments are so short that Waze can start routing from the end rather than the middle without anyone noticing, or whether it is because it doesn't matter which segment it starts from. Either way, there is no routing issue here to resolve.

Please refer to the Waze Wiki if you require further information.