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Search doesn't find street

Postby OffMyAz » Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:17 pm

Hello I am very new to Waze and this is my first post. I have searched and found similiar problems but not this exact one, pardon me if it's been asked.

I can look on a map in the editor and manually locate a certain street, but when I search for it in the editor (or anywhere else) it is not found. My guess from looking at previous posts is that it has to do with search provided by Bing. But if this is true, what is the purpose of someone adding the road in the editor if Waze doesn't know it's there?

I`m not sure if I should be confused or if it's a real problem that can be corrected.

Thanks and so far besides this problem and a nasty sounding TTS, Waze is awesome!
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Search doesn't find street

Postby Bigbear3764 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:34 pm

Does bing find it?

When you search, have you looked at the other results from google, yelp, YP, four square?


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Re: Search doesn't find street

Postby OffMyAz » Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:18 am

That's what I meant when I said it can't be found (or anywhere else). No search engines find it. But, it is there in the editor. That's why I`m confused ... why Waze doesn't search it's own roads instead of other search engines. Seems pointless to make corrections?
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Search doesn't find street

Postby jasonh300 » Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:44 pm

The search relies on external search engines. The data in the Waze map is necessary to give you directions to get you from place to place.
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Re: Search doesn't find street

Postby OffMyAz » Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:07 pm

jasonh300 wrote:The search relies on external search engines. The data in the Waze map is necessary to give you directions to get you from place to place.


So someone takes the time and effort to add the street in the editor, but then I cannot get directions to the place because it's not found in the app. Your answer, though correct, is exactly what confuses me. I can't wrap my head around the logic of it.

This might make some sense if I only needed that street as a means from point a to b, but what happens when this street is my final destination?

To me it only says Waze is far from being perfect even if it has "perfectly edited maps", albeit no worse than the search engines I guess. Add the search and only then it's as good as it's editors.
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Search doesn't find street

Postby jasonh300 » Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:16 pm

Your problem is with Bing, not Waze. Send a request to get the street put onto the Bing maps.
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Re: Search doesn't find street

Postby OffMyAz » Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:10 pm

Thanks for responding, but my sincere inability to understand why Waze does not search within it's own socially corrected maps instead of Bing's, is definately a Waze problem. I`m sorry if my thoughts are not being communicated effectively.

Waze priding itself on being social but then not using the social information provided by it's users is strange to me.
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Re: Search doesn't find street

Postby OffMyAz » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:38 pm

Perhaps I innocently stumbled upon one of those deeply profound questions, a zen koan if you will, which is asked only to arose the higher mind but in the end has no clear answer. I`ll apologize for partaking in this wild thought experiment as it seems this has no logical answer and thus simply "is because it is and therefore is".

It uses Bing to search, that IS all, that IS the answer, I`ll sit down and stop being silly :oops:
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Re: Search doesn't find street

Postby RallyChris » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:43 pm

Waze tried in base map countries to do it's own address lookup and due to issues with the source data, and an unclear way to update them via waze (there was a way, but it was cumbersome), they found that the results were a lot better by using external third party systems.

We (as in the other volunteer map editors that have been trying to answer your question) have requested that Waze give us a better internal solution, but at this time there isn't one.

A workaround is to tap and hold on the map where your address is, and you can save that point as a favorite. Yes it only works for you. Someone else searching for your address will still have issues, but at least it's a partial workaround. If you know someone is trying to use waze to get to you, you can share a destination with them via the application.
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Re: Search doesn't find street

Postby OffMyAz » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:14 pm

@RallyChris A sincere thank you for reading my question, understanding it, and providing a thoughtful answer. Again, sorry if it's been answered in this manner before.

One of my first thoughts when trying out the app was hey this is great, I`m gonna edit and correct maps like crazy for the benefit of all those like me who must find 80-100 addresses per day, 5 days a week. But this makes me very discouraged in doing that since the very places I would wish to find in Waze are typically the very ones that aren't already on a paper map (yes, my job still requires them and we are only minimally assisted by GPS). So this would render my particular efforts pointless for users like me *sigh*, the ones that need to find a street when other searches fail. Like most things in life, too good to be true.
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