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guri211 wrote:
murphy74 wrote:0th exit
Uff, najvacsim odbornikom na kruhace je Foxo,
...ale, no :oops:
guri211 wrote:a ten ma dovolenku. Tak snad ked sa vrati sa na to pozrie :)
murphy74 wrote:Zmažem ho a dám ho odznova. Jednoducho, bez V jednosmeriek.
Nestihol som. A bol som zvedavy, "0th" som este v ruke nemal.
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sunko wrote:Svaty Jur:
https://world.waze.com/editor/?zoom=6&l ... =147748650
zakazat pokracovanie rovno (smerom na Pannonsku)
Zablokovane.
Niekedy sa tam musim pozriet, ako sa tam vlastne smie a nesmie...
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vlado_s wrote:Tuší niekto prečo hlášky pri navigácií cez tieto segmenty https://world.waze.com/editor/?zoom=5&l ... ,101389180 sú akoeby sa jednalo o rampy?
Taku hlasku som uz zaregistroval aj na inych miestach (spominam si napr. na odbocenie zo Seneckej cesty na Vajnorsku).

Po niekolkom vyskyte ma napadlo, ze by to mohla byt automaticka hlaska klienta pri odboceni z "Highway" kategorie ciest na kategoriu "Streets". Aj ked sme so Zirlandom a Gurim mali dilemu ohladom jedneho exitu (D2 -> Devinska+Lamac), Zirland to zhodnotil http://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 40#p136724 ze vlastne tu hlasku generuje klient. Zavana mi to podobnou logikou.

Budem si to vsimat.
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Diky, Murphy, naštudujem si ho.
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sunko wrote:Dalsi 0th kruhac, medzi Sencom a Vinicnym, pri logistickom parku https://world.waze.com/editor/?zoom=6&l ... s=79554088 [...] prosim AM o dokreslenia odbocky vpravo segmentu ^^.
Prosim vsetkych, ktori by to chceli opravovat, ZADRZTE, chcem si to preskumat :ugeek:
OK, preskumany, vysledok je spisany nizsie.
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vlado_s wrote:
Suik wrote:
foxitrot wrote:Taku hlasku som uz zaregistroval aj na inych miestach (spominam si napr. na odbocenie zo Seneckej cesty na Vajnorsku).

Po niekolkom vyskyte ma napadlo, ze by to mohla byt automaticka hlaska klienta pri odboceni z "Highway" kategorie ciest na kategoriu "Streets".
Podla algoritmov hlasovych povelov, bod 4.
4. if s-in is a primary road and s-out is not a primary road, the instruction is: 'EXIT RIGHT'

takze [...] prechod ciest typu Highways na cesty typu Streets, Primary Street patri do druhej skupiny uz, preto to vlastne aj z "oranzovej" na "bielu" nehlasi :)
Na tomto mieste platí, čo si uviedol, ale inde som si to nevšimol. Zajtra to ešte overím na iných križovatkách s Major Highway...
Suik, vsaka za pripomenutie toho algoritmu ;)

Vlado, ciastocne mas pravdu, ked som skusal, niekedy to tak je, niekedy nie. Napadlo ma ze mozno to zavisi od uhla odbocenia atd. - musim si este raz prestudovat Drorov "algoritmus", ale stale si myslim, ze nie je ktovieako kompletny. Konkretne:
krankyd wrote:2. if the angle between s-out and the best continuation is larger than 45 degrees (and less than 180), the instruction is: 'TURN RIGHT'
2.1 One assumption is that on primary roads (minor highways, major highways and freeways), we won't have angles which are larger than 45 degrees.
Ako priklady (testoval som ich pomocou klienta Symbian 2.1.99.114) uvediem (WME permalinky): Hadam by som nasiel viac takych prikladov.

Najlepsie ked hodis kontrapriklad a skusme ho rozlustit a pochopit.
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murphy74 wrote:
foxitrot wrote:Nestihol som. A bol som zvedavy, "0th" som este v ruke nemal.
Včera som našiel ďalší kruháč, jednoduchý, a tiež "hlási" 0th exit.
Foxi môžeš sa na to pozrieť. Vďaka.
https://world.waze.com/editor/?zoom=6&l ... 5,79547491
Prve vysledky badania (skor moje poznamky):

V LiveMap:
- vsetky cesty z Parkoveho a Wilsonovho nabrezia hlasia "odbocte vpravo/vlavo/pokracujte rovno" https://world.waze.com/livemap/?zoom=9& ... 8009036923
- vsetky cesty z Mostnej a Napervillskej hlasia "take 0th exit" https://world.waze.com/livemap/?zoom=9& ... g=79547491

- juzny segment ma jeden node mierne posunuty, ale stale ma kruhovy tvar; zapadny a severny segment su mierne pokrcene v mieste dotyku Parkového nábrežia, ale stale ma kruhovy tvar,
- vsetky styri segmenty maju na chrbte nakreslene pozdlzne "= > = > =" pruhovanie, maju nastaveny flag IsRndAbt=true (WME Ext.Tools) a su jednosmerky spravnym smerom,
- v Papyruse (a.k.a. WME) sa vsetky sipky javia spravne zelene

ale

- dva segmenty (juzny a vychodny) maju nastaveny nejaky flag allowNoDirection=true (WME Ext.Tools),
- tie iste dva segmenty (juzny a vychodny) maju v Cartouche divnu vzajomnu konektivitu opacnym smerom (V->J) https://world.waze.com/cartouche_old/?z ... =149251364

Resume a plan: kto chcete, pozrite sa na to (= studijny material). Za 2-3 dni (snad dovtedy nestihnu zacat robit nove mapy) by som skusil v Cartouche zrusit len tu reverse konektivitu, ci to ten kruhac vylieci.

Namietky?
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sunko wrote:Dalsi 0th kruhac, medzi Sencom a Vinicnym, pri logistickom parku https://world.waze.com/editor/?zoom=6&l ... s=79554088 [...] prosim AM o dokreslenia odbocky vpravo segmentu ^^.
Preskumal som ho podobnou metodologiou :geek: ako ten Nitriansky:

V LiveMap:
- vsetky cesty z lavej (cervenej) odbocky od pumpy hlasia "odbocte vpravo/vlavo" - vsetky cesty z lavej (cervenej) odbocky od pumpy hlasia "odbocte vpravo/vlavo" https://world.waze.com/livemap/?lat=48. ... 7469157115
- vsetky cesty zo severu a juhu hlasia "take 0th exit".

- dva mensie segmenty (juzny a zapadny) maju nastaveny flag allowNoDirection=true (WME Ext.Tools),
- tie iste dva segmenty (juzny a vychodny) maju v Cartouche divnu vzajomnu konektivitu opacnym smerom (J->Z) https://world.waze.com/cartouche_old/?z ... =149355903

Resume a plan: kto chcete, pozrite sa na to (= studijny material). Za 2-3 dni (snad dovtedy nestihnu zacat robit nove mapy) by som mu skusil v Cartouche (al. dokonca v Papyruse!) zrusit len tu reverse konektivitu, ci to ten kruhac vylieci.

Ak este niekto najdete "0-th kruhac", dajte prosim vediet, pozriem ci mu bude to iste. Mozno raz aj zistime, preco sa to stava a coho sa vyvarovat.

Uffff :?
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Suik wrote:Zaujimave je, ze ked som ich skusal teraz v Livemap, tak mi vsetky uvedene permalinky hlasili len Keep right/left. Mam porobene aj screenshoty ked tak :)
OK, tak zabudni na LiveMap a vezmi do ruky klienta.

Ak si spomenies, pisali sme, ze tie hlasky generuje klient ;) LiveMap vravi "Keep right" - vraj tak to posiela routing server a klient to vlastnou logikou "upresni". (Mozno by sa dal upravit Waze LiveMap Navigation plugin, aby tie hlasky generoval tak isto - ale potreboval by asi vediet minimalne typy segmentov okolo junction.)
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Suik wrote:
foxitrot wrote:OK, tak zabudni na LiveMap a vezmi do ruky klienta.
Ja by som aj rad, len tusim ze od verzie 3.x. som nenasiel moznost nastavit miesto vybrane cez mapu klienta ako "start" ...tak som to testol aspon v Livemap....ale tak vratim sa na chvilu na poslednu stable 2.x. verizu a vyskusam :)
:( myslim ze o tom som kedysi cital (iPhone), len som uz nezaregistroval, ci to medzitym vratili naspat.
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