[New Page] Interstate Exit Area Place (IEAs)

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Re: [New Page] Interstate Exit Area Place (IEAs)

Postby HBiede » Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:06 pm

I’ll look into integrating these standards into the Junctions guidelines page once we get the wording nailed down.
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Re: [New Page] Interstate Exit Area Place (IEAs)

Postby HBiede » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:51 pm

tonestertm wrote:Sorry, but I personally have to violently disagree with this practice. The more words that are put on the screen, the more time eyes have to spend there to read them. Studies are already showing that the impact of distracted driving (which includes any activity that takes a driver's eyes off the road, and particularly tasks that involve reading text) is increasing crash (and death) rates. In this case, trying to make out tiny text on the map only makes it worse and more dangerous than looking away from the road in the first place, and since the time when this addition might be of use is while driving... bad idea.


While I agree that distracted driving is an issue, I don't believe that something at most 8 characters long is a cause for concern when we consider the amount of information we include on other places/segments such as ramps with names like "to US-281 / N-2 / to I-80 / Hastings / St. Paul, Grand Island, Nebraska" or multiple gas stations in an area with 3 or 4 words displaying each.
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Re: [New Page] Interstate Exit Area Place (IEAs)

Postby HBiede » Tue Feb 05, 2019 1:47 am

jm6087 wrote:
HBiede wrote:While I agree that distracted driving is an issue, I don't believe that something at most 8 characters long is a cause for concern when we consider the amount of information we include on other places/segments such as ramps with names like "to US-281 / N-2 / to I-80 / Hastings / St. Paul, Grand Island, Nebraska"


The name on the ramp is not necessarily for visual purposes as much as it is for audio purposes. It is so the driver can hear all that information, not read it.


Yes, I was just using it as an example of an area where we have a large mass of text shown to the user
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Re: [New Page] Interstate Exit Area Place (IEAs)

Postby HBiede » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:04 am

jm6087 wrote:But it is only shown when exit is part of the route. It is not displayed on the map constantly.


As someone who just took a multi-hundred mile road trip which was almost entirely on the same interstate, I would partially disagree, but I do concede the point.
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Re: [New Page] Interstate Exit Area Place (IEAs)

Postby HBiede » Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:58 am

I think the standardization is the biggest issue. I am fine conceding to the point of "too distracting" and having it be a policy of removal if that is the ultimate consensus, but I do feel like there should be some sort of standard so we don't have situations such as my aforementioned road trip where the exits suddenly stopped after I crossed the Nebraska-Colorado border.
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Re: [New Page] Interstate Exit Area Place (IEAs)

Postby HBiede » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:31 am

I’ve never had a situation where the exit was not visible. Occasionally in urban areas they do not display text, however.
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Re: [New Page] Interstate Exit Area Place (IEAs)

Postby HBiede » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:23 pm

kyhtak wrote:I've really appreciated all the thought that is going into this discussion. While I can see pros and cons for both sides of the discussion, I don't feel like I have enough experience to make any kind of informed contribution. Just reading through all of your well-thought-out points (for and against), though, is giving me a glimpse into the complexity of editing the Waze map that I have not had up to this point. Thank you!


Oh, lemme tell ya, I was not expecting this much of a discussion from a (initially seemingly) small idea.
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Re: [New Page] Interstate Exit Area Place (IEAs)

Postby HBiede » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:36 pm

Kartografer wrote:But if you didn't notice them, how are they a net negative? I was thinking that the reason for opposition was that they would be too noticeable and distracting


This is my stance as well. I don’t think not noticeable is necessarily a reason to ignore them given that the people that do notice take value from them.
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Re: [New Page] Interstate Exit Area Place (IEAs)

Postby HBiede » Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:34 am

johnsninja58 wrote:I like the IEAs (although the acronym does not roll off the tongue right)


Not a massive deal compared to deciding to use them, but I debated using Freeway Exit Areas (FEA) instead.
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Re: [New Page] Interstate Exit Area Place (IEAs)

Postby HBiede » Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:51 am

johnsninja58 wrote:
HBiede wrote:
johnsninja58 wrote:I like the IEAs (although the acronym does not roll off the tongue right)


Not a massive deal compared to deciding to use them, but I debated using Freeway Exit Areas (FEA) instead.

Just giving you a hard time on the number of vowels :D


No problem. I was kinda regretting the letter choice myself. I’ll probably switch it before any official action is taken.
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