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Toll penalty based on toll price - Now available on Live map

Post by HeziBez
Hey all,

As showed it in the global meetup last month - Toll penalty based on toll price - now available on Live map - and your feedback will be much appreciated!

How does it work?

On the live map you can now do the following:
1. See the toll prices per route
2. Adjust the toll penalty to reflect the toll price

:arrow: To see the toll price you should add in the url the following string: &rp_options=USE_TOLL_PRICES:t

:arrow: To adjust the toll penalty to reflect the toll price, you should add to the url the following 2 params:
&rp_options=USE_TOLL_PRICES:t&rp_tollPriceUserVector=USD,1,120,3,240,5,420

The values of the rp_tollPriceUserVector should include the following:
1. Currency of the toll road that is being tested
2. Toll price diff between routes in the currency from #1
3. Number of seconds of penalty for the difference in #2

***#2 and #3 can continue as you wish, as in the example above.

Required feedback:
To start with, we would like to set this param per country / state and experiment it with the users. We would love to get your feedback on how this parameter should be set in your country / state, given the local toll prices and possible roads.

Thank you & Enjoy,
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Post by Hugo_Moreira
I'll just leave my feedback about the penalty applied to toll/non toll segments transition. Not about this way to check it.

- Waze has always considered "What is the fastest way to get from A to B". It doesn't consider if you have to drive 10 more miles, go up a hill, etc. What matters is the fact that it is the fastest. That's also why you don't have an option to choose the shortest drive.
- We have already the option to choose if we are willing or not to pay tolls. So if I don't care to pay extra, waze should present me with the fastest way to get there. One good featureis already implemented: If there is a cheaper alternative, the app presents me with that info "Drive x more minutes, and pay y amount in toll".
- I don't agree with a hidden penalty of the transitions. If a toll booth represents a delay in the route, this will be already considered in the statistics of the segments they are in. And in many cases they don't even represent a real delay (electronic tolls, without stops for instance).
- If the penalty persists, I would suggest that each country could decide to switch them off and on.
- In Portugal, we had significant change in routing since implementing the tolls. The solution to this routing “abnormality” may require to alter lots of roads in the country, to bypass it.

We will see the feedback from other countries
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Last edited by Hugo_Moreira on Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Post by jm6087
Can you give an example of how the url should look after appending?

When I append &rp_options=USE_TOLL_PRICES:t
https://www.waze.com/livemap&rp_options ... L_PRICES:t

I get an error
Cannot GET /livemap&rp_options=USE_TOLL_PRICES:t
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Post by jm6087
Sweet, that seems to work so far
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Post by jm6087
It appears you have to share the route first and then add the toll details.

EDIT: You have to get a shared route URL first and then you can append the
&rp_options=USE_TOLL_PRICES:t&rp_id=beta
Once you do that, you can set new pins on LM and it will show the toll prices.
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Post by jm6087
abusimbel16 wrote:
by jm6087 » 10 Oct 2019, 14:28
It appears you have to share the route first and then add the toll details.
or start LiveMap with:

https://www.waze.com/livemap/?rp_option ... rp_id=beta
Thought I had tried that but must have typed something wrong.
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Post by nzahn1
Are these URL codes enabled by server? Can’t get the first one to display prices on a route in the US.
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Post by PesachZ
jm6087 wrote:It appears you have to share the route first and then add the toll details.

EDIT: You have to get a shared route URL first and then you can append the
&rp_options=USE_TOLL_PRICES:t&rp_id=beta
Once you do that, you can set new pins on LM and it will show the toll prices.
In general any time you are adding parameters to a URL the very first parameter is preceded by a "?", and each additional parameter is preceded by an "&".
It is not necessary to share the drive first and then adjust the URL, you can start with the adjusted URL and then choose routes as long as the URL is adjusted properly (with a "?" for the first parameter).
In this example I started with the following URL and then just tapped the map to choose start and end points. It is choosing a longer route (additional 7 minutes, and 0.7 miles) since it will be a savings of $9.50.

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https://www.waze.com/livemap?rp_id=beta&rp_options=USE_TOLL_PRICES:t&rp_tollPriceUserVector=USD,1,120,3,360,5,600
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Post by Vespucci41
Hi,

Thank you for reporting that is currently not working, we are looking into it with the routing team and will update you asap.

Thank you,
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Post by Vespucci41
Hi All,

What we were missing was the &rp_id=beta

See the following example from Rome to Milan

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https://www.waze.com/livemap/directions?to=ll.41.9027835,12.4963655&from=ll.45.4642035,9.189982&rp_options=USE_TOLL_PRICES:t&rp_id=beta
You will see the prices under the trip duration as in the image:
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Enjoy!
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