Landmark - Best Practices US

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Re: Landmark - Best Practices US

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:48 pm

skbun wrote:Actually from what I understand, there is, because in the beta version of the WME, editors CAN 'add information about gas stations beyond the fact that it exists', and at some point this will be made production as well.

Best practice at this point: if it's a gas station, create a landmark for it with its brand name, and more magic will happen later.

Not in the US, though.
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Re: Landmark - Best Practices US

Postby skbun » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:45 pm

CBenson wrote:
AndyPoms wrote:See: http://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=23354
Adding a new landmark of Gas station type will NOT add the station to the list. It will add it to the map, and if you enter a name, you will be able to search and navigate to it - just like any other landmark - but won't be able to update prices.

So there is no current reason to add a gas station landmark (in the US), right?


Actually from what I understand, there is, because in the beta version of the WME, editors CAN 'add information about gas stations beyond the fact that it exists', and at some point this will be made production as well.

Best practice at this point: if it's a gas station, create a landmark for it with its brand name, and more magic will happen later.
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Re: Landmark - Best Practices US

Postby CBenson » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:09 pm

AndyPoms wrote:See: http://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=23354
Adding a new landmark of Gas station type will NOT add the station to the list. It will add it to the map, and if you enter a name, you will be able to search and navigate to it - just like any other landmark - but won't be able to update prices.

So there is no current reason to add a gas station landmark (in the US), right?
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Re: Landmark - Best Practices US

Postby AndyPoms » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:57 pm

CBenson wrote:My understanding is that when routing to a gas station from the gas station category list in the US the current landmark layer is not used. In other words the imported gas station data is currently separate from the landmark layer. It also my understanding that the gas station data will be made available in WME for ongoing maintenance by the editors, but that this has not happened yet. Until we see how this is done, it seems to me that it is premature to develop best practices guidelines.


See: http://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=23354
Adding a new landmark of Gas station type will NOT add the station to the list. It will add it to the map, and if you enter a name, you will be able to search and navigate to it - just like any other landmark - but won't be able to update prices.
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Re: Landmark - Best Practices US

Postby HandofMadness » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:56 pm

The parking lot landmark suppresses auto generated errors for "missing roads" so is used to solve those errors. There's no reason though to cover buildings with it. I don't know that it harms anything other than cluttering up the client map.

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Re: Landmark - Best Practices US

Postby CBenson » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:54 pm

I agree that having some more guidance to get us on a consistent path would be nice, but waze needs to decide how gas stations will be handled here first.

There are many parking lots (at least on the MD side of DC) that were added by the IGN team. It seems that suppressing map problems and traffic reports from cars in parking lots was being addressed by the IGN team by putting in parking landmarks. These landmarks in my experience typcially included the buildings as well. An example is the Annapolis Mall.

The other issue is that quite a few landmarks seem to have come in with the base map. Some of these (particularly golf courses) over the course of fiddling with the landmark classifications have been given a default class. With the introduction of the gas price feature, gas stations have been made the default landmark and these landmarks now show as gas stations. This is likely the created by admin(6) gas stations that you are seeing. Example here.

I guess all I'm saying is that many of the problems here are largely traceable directly back to waze and not to the editors.

My understanding is that when routing to a gas station from the gas station category list in the US the current landmark layer is not used. In other words the imported gas station data is currently separate from the landmark layer. It also my understanding that the gas station data will be made available in WME for ongoing maintenance by the editors, but that this has not happened yet. Until we see how this is done, it seems to me that it is premature to develop best practices guidelines.
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Landmark - Best Practices US

Postby jwriddle » Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:39 am

Can the USA Landmark thread be pinned\stickied (if not already)?
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Postby jasonh300 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:15 am

Definitely no connection between those layers. You got some kind of weird coincidence going there. Post a location. It may be worth some further investigation.


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Postby jasonh300 » Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:01 am

shawndoc wrote:Was that from Waze? I would think it would be okay to add them if you are doing it to suppress traffic and error reports.


Don't know now. That was a behind the scenes thing from a couple of months ago. I think at the time, we thought that the gas prices functionality was going to depend on gas stations being marked as a landmark, but now, I'm pretty sure that the gas price indications are on a separate layer that we can't access, and neither marks the boundaries of the station, nor does it suppress traffic jams.

So I would say that it's safe to put in Gas Station landmarks.
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Postby jasonh300 » Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:58 am

jemay wrote:I have been changing the golf courses from Gas Station to Parks


Yeah...Gas Station would probably be a poor choice for a golf course.

I guess you could also use Stadium.

The only three that really matter are Parking Lots, Gas Stations (traffic suppression) and Parks since they appear in a different color. The rest could all be the same, and nobody would ever know from a functional or cosmetic standpoint.

The vast majority of landmark categories are things that shouldn't ever be on the map and would just be clutter.
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