Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby txemt » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:30 am

In Texas, we have three roads which I've never seen in any other state (and I've been to half of this country):

FM-Farm to Market
RM-Ranch to Market
PR-Park Road (this may be used inside parks throughout the country, but Texas names them for roads going to a park or through a national/state park).

Most people will say "take a left onto F M 429" but they are labeled as Farm to Market road 429. They are state maintained roads and there is no exact configuration on them, or no set standards as to how they built. You'll find them in ALL of the major cities in the state and they are usually called something else, but as you drive on the road through the city, you'll see the signs that remind you you're on FM 429. A lot of these roads are set to the maximum speed limit of the Interstate Highway System (I love flying down a FM road at 80mph and not worry about getting pulled over). I haven't used the TTS a whole bunch to figure out what it says when it comes to these roads, but I'm assuming it will say "take a left onto ef em 429." I'll report back when I decide to go down a FM road using the TTS.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:08 pm

txemt wrote:In Texas, we have three roads which I've never seen in any other state (and I've been to half of this country):

FM-Farm to Market
RM-Ranch to Market
PR-Park Road (this may be used inside parks throughout the country, but Texas names them for roads going to a park or through a national/state park).

Most people ....


banished and mapcat had noted FM and RM some time ago and they were added to the list to be tested. And while PR sounds familiar, it was not yet in the list, so I added it for completeness.

And RR - Ranch Road is another Texas thing that deepeddy mentioned some time ago that I just found while searching the forums. I just added it too.

FYI, Farm-to-Market Roads also exist in Iowa.

Here is a link to an article about FMs in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farm-to-market_road

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Curious that neither sign mentions "Market". Great way to confuse non-Texans!

I'll be sure to add your test results, if you find them before we build another test rig.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby zombie16 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:38 pm

I can confirm that FM roads are pronounced as 'Farm to Market'. I have not come across any RM roads or PR roads while driving. I have seen PR roads in the map editor, though.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:24 pm

zombie16 wrote:I can confirm that FM roads are pronounced as 'Farm to Market'. I have not come across any RM roads or PR roads while driving. I have seen PR roads in the map editor, though.


Thanks, I edited the list to show that you confirmed that the abbreviation "FM" is pronounced "Farm to Market".
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby txemt » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:23 pm

zombie16 wrote:I can confirm that FM roads are pronounced as 'Farm to Market'. I have not come across any RM roads or PR roads while driving. I have seen PR roads in the map editor, though.


You need to come further south. In the San Antonio/Austin area. More specifically near the Blanco area and some points in between College Station and Austin. The Park Roads are down near there, too. I know there is a Park Road near where the Bastrop fire was last year, and another one somewhere west of Austin, but they're there. Also, if you Google map Kyle, Tx and follow FM 967 out west from Kyle, it dead ends into RM 1826. You can also click on the street views and see the sign clearly marked as "Ranch Market."
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby txemt » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:26 pm

GizmoGuy411 wrote:FYI, Farm-to-Market Roads also exist in Iowa.


I did NOT know that.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby DonJ2 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:00 am

What does TTS say when streets use the following formats (for example)?

SW 41st Way (as in 40 first, I'm guessing TTS will say "Forty One Street Way"?)
SW 42nd Way (as in 40 second)
SW 43rd Way (as in 40 third, I'm guessing TTS will say "Forty Three Road Way"?)
SW 44th Way (as in 40 fourth)
... etc.

I've seen this format used in the basemaps. I could not find these abbreviations in the spreadsheet, so I'm wondering what TTS will do?
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:38 am

DonJ2 wrote:What does TTS say when streets use the following formats (for example)?

SW 41st Way (as in 40 first, I'm guessing TTS will say "Forty One Street Way"?)
SW 42nd Way (as in 40 second)
SW 43rd Way (as in 40 third, I'm guessing TTS will say "Forty Three Road Way"?)
SW 44th Way (as in 40 fourth)
... etc.

I've seen this format used in the basemaps. I could not find these abbreviations in the spreadsheet, so I'm wondering what TTS will do?


Good point! We intended to add more numerically named combinations, but never did. We only had "3rd", with no suffix which Waze did handled properly according to "invented".

There are a number of numerically named streets across town from me that I should be close to tomorrow. I'll try to see how they are handled. I'm afraid however that they are all "Streets", so testing for the "Road" suffix may take a while unless someone else can find some existing ones to report on.

I've also added the following to the list for future testing:

1st Rd
1st St
2nd
2nd Rd
2nd St
3rd
3rd Rd
3rd St
4th
4th Rd
4th St
41st Rd
41st St
42nd Rd
42nd St
43rd Rd
43rd St

I did not add the suffix "Way" as I figured, if there would be issues, it would be with the above combinations.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:49 am

I'm pretty sure I've heard most of those abbreviations such as 22nd, 31st, 44th, etc., fully pronounced correctly. I know for certain that roads like "209th Ave" are correctly pronounced, in the US, as "two oh ninth avenue" and 175th and 185th are "one hundred seventy-fifth" and "one hundred eighty-fifth" as you would expect.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:56 am

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:I'm pretty sure I've heard most of those abbreviations such as 22nd, 31st, 44th, etc., fully pronounced correctly. I know for certain that roads like "209th Ave" are correctly pronounced, in the US, as "two oh ninth avenue" and 175th and 185th are "one hundred seventy-fifth" and "one hundred eighty-fifth" as you would expect.


That is good to hear Alan. (pun intended)

Do you recall hearing any specific combinations such as "1st St" or "3rd Rd", as those type of combinations with similar suffixes are the ones that I think would be most likely to fail.
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