Gas prices feature: everything you need to know

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Re: Gas prices feature: everything you need to know

Postby FreeMan12 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:11 am

I noticed tonight that "3rd Party" is reporting "N/A" for various octane ratings of gas, not just users doing drive-byes. Need to get a better source!

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Re: Gas prices feature: everything you need to know

Postby Mike-1323 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:07 pm

CBenson wrote:Wow. So how accurately does waze route to them? I've found that the waze routing to the station addresses isn't very precise. In other words, once waze routes to the intersection, which way waze tells you to turn seems fairly random. For instance, the destination flag occurs in the middle of split roads for a few stations that waze has routed me to. Until we can actually correct the station locations so that waze can route precisely to the station with the lowest price among stations with the same brand at the same intersection, I'm not sure that being able to distinguish them when entering the price is going to make much difference.

Good point. I've never tried to route to either station so I have no idea. But based on the inaccuracy or other addresses that I've routed to it would be very unlikely that it would have the correct location for either station. As with most things it takes some intelligence from the user to make it useful so as long as Waze can get my within sight of my destination then I can usually figure out the last few hundred meters on my own. :D
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Re: Gas prices feature: everything you need to know

Postby CBenson » Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:18 pm

Mike-1323 wrote:Oddly they sometimes have different prices.

Wow. So how accurately does waze route to them? I've found that the waze routing to the station addresses isn't very precise. In other words, once waze routes to the intersection, which way waze tells you to turn seems fairly random. For instance, the destination flag occurs in the middle of split roads for a few stations that waze has routed me to. Until we can actually correct the station locations so that waze can route precisely to the station with the lowest price among stations with the same brand at the same intersection, I'm not sure that being able to distinguish them when entering the price is going to make much difference.
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Re: Gas prices feature: everything you need to know

Postby Mike-1323 » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:37 pm

Nacron wrote:Also, there needs to be a way to see the address of the station. I've seen it where there are several stations of the same brand on the same list.

This. I would like to see this. There are a couple of locations nearby where the same brand is being sold on opposite corners of an intersection (who the frell approves such things?). There's no way in the client to determine which one is which in the list. Oddly they sometimes have different prices.
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Re: Gas prices feature: everything you need to know

Postby Nacron » Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:58 am

Personally, I think there should be a way to report certain users who are just hitting correct price just to get the 8 points and probably while driving near but not close enough to see the gas prices. There are several users I know for certain that are just doing that because it says updated today and the price was from several days ago. Also, there needs to be a way to see the address of the station. I've seen it where there are several stations of the same brand on the same list.
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Re: Gas prices feature: everything you need to know

Postby foxitrot » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:35 am

FreeMan12 wrote:I think that the selection of "Not Available" needs to either be expanded or more completely verified.
Here in the US many to most gas stations will list the price for regular unleaded and diesel on their big signs. I think that a lot of people are [...] entering "N/A" because they don't know the price of mid-grade and premium. [...]

I have some suggestions for fixing it:
1) Add an additional pop-up question when somebody selects "N/A" for a fuel price - "Does this station NOT CARRY this grade of fuel, or do you NOT KNOW the price for this grade?" with appropriate buttons to select. That way, drive byes could select NOT KNOW, leaving the old price.
2) Add an additional button saying "UNKNOWN" instead of just the "NOT AVAILABLE" button.
4) Possibly combine 1 & 2. Always ask the question if someone selects "Not Available".

It would be solved by having only an "UNKNOWN" button available directly (for these who update the prices on-the-fly, this way they would thus only skip such invisible price and not damage its (although possibly older) value) and hiding the "NOT AVAILABLE" button somewhere deeper in the UI - for anyone else, who would take the care to find out the prices in the station and could make sure the fuel is REALLY not available.
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Re: Gas prices feature: everything you need to know

Postby FreeMan12 » Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:20 pm

I think that the selection of "Not Available" needs to either be expanded or more completely verified.

Here in the US many to most gas stations will list the price for regular unleaded and diesel on their big signs. I think that a lot of people are driving around entering prices as they drive by (dangerous, covered already), and entering "N/A" because they don't know the price of mid-grade and premium. As I understand it, this defeats the purpose of being able to enter your preferred fuel type and searching for it as you're driving.

I have some suggestions for fixing it:
1) Add an additional pop-up question when somebody selects "N/A" for a fuel price - "Does this station NOT CARRY this grade of fuel, or do you NOT KNOW the price for this grade?" with appropriate buttons to select. That way, drive byes could select NOT KNOW, leaving the old price.
2) Add an additional button saying "UNKNOWN" instead of just the "NOT AVAILABLE" button.
3) Only allow fuel price entry if the current speed is < 1MPH. This will completely eliminate the drive by entries, and people should be able to enter the price of all grades while standing by the pump.
4) Possibly combine 1 & 2. Always ask the question if someone selects "Not Available".
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Re: Gas prices feature: everything you need to know

Postby gianekaren » Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:20 pm

Unholy wrote:
gianekaren wrote:well..today instead of a different price I've a n/a everywhere... communication error?



Hi,

Can you give me a perma link of this station or it's coordinates please?

Thanks,

Ori


https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=7&lat=41.26709&lon=-75.83301&layers=BFTFTTTFTTFTTTTTTTTTFT
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Re: Gas prices feature: everything you need to know

Postby Olestas » Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:56 am

Just tried to enter prices for some different stations in Latvia. Gas price still not valid. But now it allow to enter all numbers, no more automatic 9 at the end. Does not help though :D

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Re: Gas prices feature: everything you need to know

Postby pixelgeek » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:07 pm

Just an idea:
Would it be possible to change the permission requirement so that one could add gas stations outside his/her editable area?

Here in Finland we are verifying the locations of gas stations using a tool which gives the coordinates where a gas station should be to see if someone added it already... If the aerial imagery is good, it usually is quite easy to spot where the gas station should be.. but now I have added/verified all the gas stations within my area... would love to add more, but the editable area is preventing me to do so... (and no, I'm not going to drive around the country just so that I can add gas stations...)
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