Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

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Re: Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze C

Postby Kuhlkatz » Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:47 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:As is mentioned in this thread and elsewhere, we have no ability to influence TTS pronunciation. We have requested a phonetic field which would help in many cases, but would not likely be able to influence accents.


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The post reason was twofold. Confirmation that N# produces 'north number' in TTS despite no spacing and I'm interested to know if there is a current 'workaround' for this.

I'm not concerned about the accent, but it would be cool if Waze had this bit customized with voice files like Garmin and other providers.

The TTS override as discussed elsewhere is a good idea, but if the current Livemap does not even indicate reality, this is likely also far off.
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Re: Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze C

Postby rleejr79 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:24 pm

Kandralla wrote:
GizmoGuy411 wrote:Penn for Pennsylvania was moved from the main list to the State abbreviation list where it belongs, along with other alternate state abbreviations. Yes we definitely want it removed from the TTS!


Am I correct in my assumption that this means that William Penn Highway will now be called "William Penn Highway" as oppoesed to "William Pennsylvania Highway"?

If so thanks, that was annoying.


As a fellow Pennsylvanian with a 'Penn St.' , +1.
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Re: Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze C

Postby Gizmoguy411 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:51 pm

Kandralla wrote:
GizmoGuy411 wrote:Penn for Pennsylvania was moved from the main list to the State abbreviation list where it belongs, along with other alternate state abbreviations. Yes we definitely want it removed from the TTS!


Am I correct in my assumption that this means that William Penn Highway will now be called "William Penn Highway" as oppoesed to "William Pennsylvania Highway"?

If so thanks, that was annoying.


No. Nothing has changed except where we had "Penn" in the test list.

The list has no impact on how Waze handle TTS. It is merely to learn how TTS currently works as Waze has no documentation themselves. The TTS results are actually a product of a company called Nuance.

We still do not know if, how or when our list may be able to help Waze influence the TTS package.

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Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

Postby Gizmoguy411 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:09 am

Kuhlkatz wrote:
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:As is mentioned in this thread and elsewhere, we have no ability to influence TTS pronunciation. We have requested a phonetic field which would help in many cases, but would not likely be able to influence accents.


Alan,

The post reason was twofold. Confirmation that N# produces 'north number' in TTS despite no spacing and I'm interested to know if there is a current 'workaround' for this.

I'm not concerned about the accent, but it would be cool if Waze had this bit customized with voice files like Garmin and other providers.

The TTS override as discussed elsewhere is a good idea, but if the current Livemap does not even indicate reality, this is likely also far off.
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If you read back a couple of pages in this forum you will see the only work-a-round that we know of for pronouncing the letters N, E, S, and W. Not elegant or optimal, but it works.

The answer is also in the list.


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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby AndyPoms » Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:57 pm

"Conn" says "Con" in TTS... Added 9/10/2012 to my test rig (parking lot at work)...

I just updated the road names for the next update as well...
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby Gizmoguy411 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 2:01 pm

AndyPoms wrote:"Conn" says "Con" in TTS... Added 9/10/2012 to my test rig (parking lot at work)...

I just updated the road names for the next update as well...


Thanks Andy...

Adding your results to the list now.

Did you happen to test "Conn." with the period too?

Eventually for completeness, I also want to test all the similar "alternate" state abbreviations with and without periods that I mention at the top of the state list. If "Penn" can say "Pennsylvania" then I'm sure others are in use too. Of course not all will cause issues like "Penn" does when roads are named after people like William Penn!

And speaking of "Penn", I kept it listed in the state list, but added it back to the main list with a reference to the state list. Since it is one of those that has a dual meaning I figured it should really be in both places.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby AndyPoms » Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:26 pm

GizmoGuy411 wrote:
AndyPoms wrote:"Conn" says "Con" in TTS... Added 9/10/2012 to my test rig (parking lot at work)...

I just updated the road names for the next update as well...


Thanks Andy...

Adding your results to the list now.

Did you happen to test "Conn." with the period too?


I was testing for "Connector" but I'll add "Conn." to my test rig... It's kinda small, so I can only do a few at a time...
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby Gizmoguy411 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:44 pm

AndyPoms wrote:...
I was testing for "Connector" but I'll add "Conn." to my test rig... It's kinda small, so I can only do a few at a time...


Ahh! I edited that, and made a cross ref with Connecticut too.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby AndyPoms » Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:55 pm

Alright, here's a screwy one...

There's a ramp I take when I'm headed back to the office from the northeastern part of CT... The sign & the ramp in Waze is labeled "...Charter Oak Br..." For the longest time the TTS said "Charter Oak Bridge", a few days ago a UR popped up that noted that TTS was saying "Charter Oak Branch"... :? I checked the TTS list, sure enough "Br" translates to "Branch"... I drove it today (haven't been out that way in about a month or so), and what do I hear "Charter Oak Branch"... :x

What's up with the 2 possibilities? (it also needs to get noted on the list)

"Br" is pretty standard in the North East for "Bridge"... As you can see from this Street View in NYC that includes the "Triboro Br", "Geo Washington Br" & "Whitestone Br"...

How common is it that "Br" is used for "Branch" in the rest of the US?
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby Gizmoguy411 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:42 am

This sounds like another one of those positional issues. I think I recall jasonh300 saying something before about a similar situation.

I'm not even sure how show in the list that "Br" is sometimes "Bridge" and sometimes "Branch" for the very same road segment, depending on how Samatha feels at the moment. I'll have to think on it.

Looking at the list again, "Br" is not a good choice for "Bridge" based on the official abbreviations of the US Postal Service and the federal Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices.

And for the record, the only time I think I have ever seen the word "Branch" is when I added it to the list from the USPS! At least I've heard of the word "Branch, but "Stravenue"? I had to look that one up when I first found it in the USPS list. And as uncommon as it may be, I think it wins for having the most possible abbreviations.
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