Right U Right on Mapcat Bowtie

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Right U Right on Mapcat Bowtie

Postby HandofMadness » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:31 pm

Hi guys, I believe this problem is due to traffic data making Waze think a right, and U and a right is quicker than going straight through the intersection. But since I've been seeing a LOT of these lately, I thought I'd post one up to make sure I'm not overlooking something.

- Just tried to reproduce in live map, failed.
- Checked for soft turn restrictions, none.
- This isn't one of those cheap Chinese Mapcat knockoffs, but a 100% Authentic Mapcat Bowtie hand crafted by the man himself back in May

https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=6&lat ... 7,63371016

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Re: Right U Right on Mapcat Bowtie

Postby CBenson » Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:28 am

I don't see anything amiss. I have been seeing many of these as well. I'm very interested to see you are getting them at bowties as that kills my theory that this might be caused by waze not distinguishing between left turns and straight through movements.
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Re: Right U Right on Mapcat Bowtie

Postby Timbones » Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:34 am

Can this problem be fixed (or at least moved elsewhere) by making that U-turn segment less than 15m and un-named?
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Re: Right U Right on Mapcat Bowtie

Postby khaytsus » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:04 pm

I'd also make that second left restricted. There's no reason someone should turn left from that connector.
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Re: Right U Right on Mapcat Bowtie

Postby cdombroski » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:49 pm

While you're at it, make sure that no one can turn left from this segment
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Re: Right U Right on Mapcat Bowtie

Postby HandofMadness » Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:54 pm

Timbones wrote:Can this problem be fixed (or at least moved elsewhere) by making that U-turn segment less than 15m and un-named?


Probably. I just wanted to see if there was any other explanation of why Waze wasn't routing straight through (but only some of the time), other than traffic data. I've been seeing these a lot lately, guess Waze has changed something on the routing server to make these more frequent.
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Re: Right U Right on Mapcat Bowtie

Postby ncc1701v » Fri Sep 28, 2012 5:50 pm

khaytsus wrote:I'd also make that second left restricted. There's no reason someone should turn left from that connector.

Digressing from the original intent ... suppose I'm coming to the bowtie from the south and I miss my turn? There are definitely reasons why someone might turn left up there.

As to the original post, has this intersection worked correctly before? If so then the problem might not be fixable in the map. Could the routing algorithms have changed?
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Re: Right U Right on Mapcat Bowtie

Postby WeeeZer14 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:15 pm

ncc1701v wrote:Digressing from the original intent ... suppose I'm coming to the bowtie from the south and I miss my turn? There are definitely reasons why someone might turn left up there.
Catching up on the forums so I'm late to the party, but I'd say that situation (missing a turn) should NOT be directly handled by Waze. If a driver missed a turn, it is up to them to find a place to turn around -- or just follow a new route. What if the road at the bowtie was blocked off for construction or an accident? Sending the driver back to it won't help. Heck, they could be set into an infinite loop passing through that bow tie over and over again as the driver ignores the turn and Waze just tells them to u-turn and try again.
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