I like that idea, but remove the hyphen (i.e., "M25 CW" and "M25 ACW").

I suggest this because, at least with E/W/N/S, "Opposite direction" reports have worked properly on my interstates. That is, if I'm travelling on "I- 10 E" and there's traffic the other way, when I make a report for the opposite direction, the report properly says "Traffic jam on I- 10 W".

Leave the hyphens out and it'll be easier for the team to update the code, I would think, because it would be consistent. And you don't want to go back and edit the whole ring later!

stevious wrote:Interesting stuff.

I hope I'm not being too forward here, but I have created a wiki page with a (hopefully correct) summary of this discussion with a few other bits that we need to agree on. Take a look through it and edit it as you need to.

http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/How_ ... d_Kingdon)

I hope this is okay with everyone.

Steven

Looks good, except that Dror has stated that carriageway direction should be included, because this makes traffic and incident reports and navigation much more effective. I'll take care of it.

See this link for Dror's clarification: http://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php ... 644#p11644

Yes, I'll work on a list of definitive abbreviations as they are already found on the US map.

Interesting stuff.

I hope I'm not being too forward here, but I have created a wiki page with a (hopefully correct) summary of this discussion with a few other bits that we need to agree on. Take a look through it and edit it as you need to.

http://www.waze.com/wiki/index.php/How_ ... d_Kingdon)

I hope this is okay with everyone.

Steven

Looks good, except that Dror has stated that carriageway direction should be included, because this makes traffic and incident reports and navigation much more effective. I'll take care of it.

Great, thanks.

Steven

There are no guidelines for labelling roads where a street name exists but it forms part of a named route. The question was raised in an unlock request with regard to the naming of streets which form part of the South Circular Road http://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=265&t=24014.

The route going through my editing area was already labelled just as A205 - South Circular Rd, and there was no listing of the street names of those roads - Atkins Rd, Streatham Pl, Christchurch Rd, Thurlow Pk Rd, Dulwich Common. I relabelled the roads in the form A205 - Atkins Rd (South Circular Rd) on the basis that either would be found in a search. However, I've been told this is wrong, although not why.

How should we label such roads? Currently, Atkins Rd which runs west from Streatham Pl, only forms part of the South Circular for a short length. The road then continues as an ordinary residential street. Clearly, it's correct to label the street sections as Atkins Rd. The section that forms part of the South Circular is also Atkins Rd and should be labelled accordingly.

What's the best way of labelling in this example?

Regards

I've been putting the A and B roads in as 'primary streets' if it's in a built-up area where the speed limit is going to be 30 mph. Outside the built up areas, I would be in complete agreement that A roads should be "major highways" and B-roads "minor highways" - but in the middle of London, A-roads are little better than most side roads...surely?

OK - is there any chance of getting any official guidance from Waze on this then?

I know that the small group of us who are currently naming UK roads might be able to come to some agreement at the moment, but we will very shortly be joined by dozens (hundreds?) of other people who will soon be joining Waze, all with their own thoughts on the matter...

We could keep reinventing the wheel, but I suspect that at some point, someone at Waze would eventually -tell- us to name them in some fashion... -If- that was going to happen, I would rather it happen now than later, so I don't have to re-name all the roads...

Waze guys? Any thoughts?

I keep thinking that the distinction I would like to see when looking at a map is: is this route going to be in any way preferable to others? I think most of us base that on speed.

Yes, I know Waze automatically thinks about that, but some of us will still 'prefer' route that we believe are going to be faster for some reason.

For this reason, I keep thinking that the main distinction might be best thought of in terms of speeds.

So how about something more like this:

Motorways: - Freeways
Any other dual carriageway - Major Highway
Any 2-lane A Road, or indeed B-Road - Minor Highway

This way - A-Roads inside cities would only be marked as a 'minor highway' if it's just another 2-lane road, but if it's a dual carriageway, it would get a higher 'status', and look more impressive, since it's more likely to have a higher speed limit and be able to carry a higher volume?

OK - at this point I'm now wanting guidance from Waze even more. There must be some -ideal- way to do this, and I'm also not into unilateral decisions. Is this really down to us to work out?