Query: not using "next named street" in parking lots?

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Re: Query: not using "next named street" in parking lots?

Postby CBenson » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:28 pm

My initial thought is that that there are some fairly extensive parking lots (particularly in the "towne center" type shopping malls around here) with internal streets that are named where the directions should use the name on the sign.

However, I guess the question here becomes whether named street in a large shopping development are really "parking lot" roads.

My first thought was the lot here which was entirely parking lot segments but has internal street names. However, I see that editors have already changed most of the named streets to "street type." So your proposal should now work fine here.

My second thought was the lot here which again has internal street names (and is admittedly over mapped). But again here the named streets primarily use the "private street" type. So again your proposal should work.

So I guess I'm wondering whether we shouldn't propose to waze the criteria "do not not announce the street name if the next segment is a parking lot segment." And then, if waze adopts the proposal, promulgate an editing guideline that if a street actually has a name it should not be a "parking lot" road, but rather should be a regular street or a private road, depending on whether it should be use for through routing or not.
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Re: Query: not using "next named street" in parking lots?

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:22 pm

CBenson wrote:
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:1) The current/previous segment is a parking lot segment
and 2) The next segment is a parking lot segment
and 3) The next segment is unnamed

Ok, but if you have requirement 3), why do you need requirement 1)?

Ummm...
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Re: Query: not using "next named street" in parking lots?

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:22 pm

CBenson wrote:A second thought is that I kind of like the instructions in the parking lot as they usually let me know what exit waze is heading to even though the instruction don't really make sense.

Your proposal is also something I've considered and could support as well. "turn right to" or "turn right towards" are both better language than the current "turn right at" instructions.

My proposal could also be amended, but would require good parking lot creation discipline, to deal with named lot roads, as I've seen those too. How about:

1) The current/previous segment is a parking lot segment
and 2) The next segment is a parking lot segment
and 3) The next segment is unnamed
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Query: not using "next named street" in parking lots?

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:07 pm

I'd like to see what the community thinks about requesting that Waze not announce the next named street when navigating through parking lots? I've noticed myself and have fielded many URs where drivers get the "turn left at <road name>", "turn right at <road name" when those turns are just within the parking lot.

I would suggest this criteria for "do not announce street name" if:
1) The current/previous segment is a parking lot segment
and 2) The next segment is a parking lot segment

#1 is to allow the situation where some parking lots into large malls are sometimes named and therefore, when entering the parking lot from a street, ramp, highway, etc, that name will be announced. But when exiting the parking lot, this name will not be announced because the current segment is likely a parking lot segment. (If the lot is properly designed with all parking lot road types.)

Whatcha think?
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