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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby davipt » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:30 pm

crazycomputingdotnet wrote:On those roundabouts, I am not seeing the center node. Are you deleting them?


What is a center node? Never saw one
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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:35 pm

davipt wrote:
crazycomputingdotnet wrote:On those roundabouts, I am not seeing the center node. Are you deleting them?


What is a center node? Never saw one

You could only see them in Cartouche, so I do not believe this is the case, here. There is a node, invisible in WME, at the center of a roundabout which actually defines the center and the roundabout object itself. If it gets deleted, then the roads cease to be a roundabout, and they go back to normal segments.
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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby thefatveganchef » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:37 pm

There is a roundabout I looked at before replying in WME. At certain zoom levels you can see it.
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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby davipt » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:41 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
davipt wrote:
crazycomputingdotnet wrote:On those roundabouts, I am not seeing the center node. Are you deleting them?


What is a center node? Never saw one

You could only see them in Cartouche, so I do not believe this is the case, here. There is a node, invisible in WME, at the center of a roundabout which actually defines the center and the roundabout object itself. If it gets deleted, then the roads cease to be a roundabout, and they go back to normal segments.


I think I recall something like that on cartouche_old, yes, but never on WME and would never delete it on purpose.

From the day I found the broken roundabouts until now I had a feeling that it could be caused by different levels confusing the system, but I've now seen some roundabout with all segments correctly at 0 but still with some segments "kind of inverted". The level stuff I just saw somewhere on the wiki and noticed recently - sometimes I do change a segment from one point to a point more on the side, in an attempt to straighten up the entries and exits to get the "straight ahead/turn left/turn right" instead of "take the nth exit", as most roundabouts are just straight crosses with a roundabout in the middle, and after moving the segment I go and "bridge" the two segments around the old junction so all segments are complete, but that operation bumps the level to 1. So now I'm trying to go back again to all the roundabouts I've been trying to fix on the last week and trying to ensure they are all level 0, fully locked, fully q-w arrow enabled, and that's when I noticed the inverted segments. So now I need to go again to all roundabouts, recreate them all, take notes of all, wait for a mapdate, and if any of them gets screwed again, I'll be forced to just give up and live with the broken instructions...
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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby davipt » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:42 pm

crazycomputingdotnet wrote:There is a roundabout I looked at before replying in WME. At certain zoom levels you can see it.


didn't understand this sorry :(
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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby thefatveganchef » Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:11 pm

If you zoom in and out sometimes you can see the center node.

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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby davipt » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:29 am

crazycomputingdotnet wrote:If you zoom in and out sometimes you can see the center node


it was hard to find out that roundabout, but yes I can also see the small center blue cross ableit there is nothing I can do with it. But I can't see anything like that on the intl server.

PS: there is a weird segment on the right side, and a lot of soft turns

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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby thefatveganchef » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:50 am

Thanks. Odd that there are soft turns when that is not a basemapped roundabout.
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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby davipt » Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:53 am

crazycomputingdotnet wrote:Thanks. Odd that there are soft turns when that is not a basemapped roundabout.


If one creates the roundabout without manually qw'ing each node, it will be soft-turn by default.


Then there's the case I'm mentioning, where I do get the soft and u-turns and inverted directions after some months, even with the locks. ;)


And don't forget the street below the primary at the right side!
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Re: Roundabout flags disapearing

Postby thefatveganchef » Tue Oct 30, 2012 1:22 am

Yup, first thing I got. My sloppy editing in old I suppose.

I wonder if it is related to an issue we stumbled upon where roads were changing direction. There is a 2 mile segment near my house that I am the only one I drive on, and I only drive on it one way. I made it a 2 way way back in march, and it has since changed to a one way, switched it back and same. This happened three times. I have gone ahead and killed the entire stretch and rebuilt it, and am testing to see if it does it again. So far it hasn't, however every few days or so when I drive on it I get the pac man.
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