Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:22 pm

GizmoGuy411 wrote:..."bee eye aye" ...

FYI, in my area of the country "eye" and "aye" are both pronounced the same. :lol:

Phonetic representation of that would be "eɪ" as in "say," but that makes me realize there is no real easy was to represent vowel-only sounds without resorting to "as in" or using the phonetic characters.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby mapcat » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:41 pm

Is it essential to have TTS say "Bureau of Indian Affairs Thirteen" for that road? What's wrong with calling it "be eye ay thirteen"? Or would TTS call that "by-ah thirteen" instead?
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:54 pm

The latest list contains several changes suggested by Wazers in the last couple of weeks.

Airport=Arpt was added.

Penn for Pennsylvania was moved from the main list to the State abbreviation list where it belongs, along with other alternate state abbreviations. Yes we definitely want it removed from the TTS! While in the State list, I also added a link for alternate State abbreviations and another for Canadian Providences that we should pull from to add to the list in the future.

vectorspace has done some good research on abbreviations that should be considered for our western States. The following were added to the list:

Bureau of Indian Affairs=BIA
Calle=Cll
Camino=Cam
Grande=? (no suggested abbreviations were found yet)
Indian Service Route=ISR
Service=Serv
Service=Svc
Valle=Vll

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:32 pm

xteejx wrote:Any chance we can have Saint back the way it was, ie St at the start. Annoying work if we have to change them all!

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Just to be clear, we have not requested any change in the way it currently works. Others have reported in the past that they have seen inconsistent results, including the same road being pronounced different at different times.

And as many of us have said before, positional abbreviation awareness is a bad idea. We would much prefer using the period for "St." to be Saint, "St" to be Street, "Dr." to be Doctor, and "Dr" to be Drive as examples.

The "Sulgrave Dr" being pronounced as "Sulgrave Doctor" issue (see previous posts) is probably another example of why we don't want positional abbreviation awareness! (This could also be a specific exception rule that Waze used for some reason, and not a positional awareness issue.)


xteejx wrote:So we have to change everything? I'll let our lot know :'-(

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I would hesitate doing that for now. We have not made any suggestions to Waze for changes yet, and we have no idea which if any they will make or even can make.

While we know they have a tool to create specific exceptions, the TTS package is a delivered product from Nuance and they may be the ones who will need to make the changes we suggest and not Waze.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:25 pm

AndyPoms wrote:I can report that "Arpt" in Hartford, CT says "Airport" in TTS... I drove these ramps all the time... (Permalink & Permalink as well as a few other ramps in the area)


Ick... what a crappy abbreviation! Never would have thought of that one.

It is added to the list.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby harling » Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:44 am

AndyPoms wrote:
AlanOfTheBerg wrote:I don't think we should have Waze relying on positional pronunciation. It's just bound to fail. If we make it a standard that "St" is "street" and "St." is "saint" then we know exactly how it will be pronounced regardless of where it is in the street name.
+1 for ease of use...

Been recommending that all along.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby AndyPoms » Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:35 am

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:I don't think we should have Waze relying on positional pronunciation. It's just bound to fail. If we make it a standard that "St" is "street" and "St." is "saint" then we know exactly how it will be pronounced regardless of where it is in the street name.


+1 for ease of use...
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby dknight212 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:15 am

lovely
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby floppyrod84 » Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:11 am

So we have to change everything? I'll let our lot know :'-(

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby DonJ2 » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:51 am

AndyPoms wrote:I can report that "Arpt" in Hartford, CT says "Airport" in TTS...

Yuke, It almost looks like apartment.
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