Junction style guide: ramp restriction inconsistency

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Re: Junction style guide: ramp restriction inconsistency

Postby CBenson » Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:01 pm

First be aware that the freeway cited in that post can back up to bumper-to-bumper traffic at times. Based on my recollection (take it for what its worth), there was a time that there were frequent URs at that interchange that showed waze would route off/on there, but that was largely solved by removing the city names from the freeway. I don't recall any recent URs about off/on routing there although MysticCobra was routed that way a month or so ago*. We could use the crossed ramps at this interchange if the off/on routing seems to be a problem.

* Based on MysticCobra's description that he was going from 97 into Ft Meade, I had thought he was routed around the 1298 m westbound freeway segment over 1370 m of ramps (although, there have been some edits to interchange so the configuration may have been slightly different).
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Re: Junction style guide: ramp restriction inconsistency

Postby CBenson » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:54 pm

I don't see the conflict. My understanding is that conditions like the slow speed on the freeway is what causes off/on routing over ramps. Many consider this to be bad routing even if faster, thus the straight-through prohibition.
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Re: Junction style guide: ramp restriction inconsistency

Postby bz2012 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:35 pm

MysticCobra wrote:Can someone describe the scenario where someone is routed off-on? Is it just for traffic jams?

As I said earlier, I have seen URs posted in the middle of no where, in places that there would never be traffic jams.

Here is one where there were several URs complaining about being routed off/on.
intersection with nodes added to prevent 'off/on' routing.
https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=2&lat ... TTTFTTTTFT

I tried adding a bunch of nodes along the ramps.
I don't think it helped, but I don't see any URs there right now.

EDIT: I don't know what happened to the link. I thought I had put it there but just saw no link so put it now.
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Re: Junction style guide: ramp restriction inconsistency

Postby bz2012 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:38 pm

Whether or not it is legal, I see a LOT of driver complaints about bad driving instructions and bad junctions when they get routed off the highway and then back on.
Especially when they followed the instructions, but even when they didn't.

I have tried adding a bunch of nodes along the ramps to 'try and stop the off/on routing' in some places in the middle of no where. In the case I am thinking of, I could NOT forbid the traffic because there was also an access road that went through the same intersections.

In any case, the added nodes did NOT stop the driver complaints. GPS tracks and routes still showed WAZE trying to route them off/on.

My e-mail to support on this subject has never been answered.
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Re: Junction style guide: ramp restriction inconsistency

Postby BlazeTool » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:59 am

skbun wrote:By the way...are we all in agreement that the correct name for interstates now is "I-XXX", with no space, and we should make a project of seek and destroy wherever found?


Has the problem with shields only being displayed if the space is included been fixed?
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Re: Junction style guide: ramp restriction inconsistency

Postby BlazeTool » Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:35 pm

Just an FYI for anyone following along. Discussion of routing off and back on via ramps has also popped up over here, referring to this interchange. For the record, the path via ramps is 1082 meters, via the freeway is 1100 meters.
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Re: Junction style guide: ramp restriction inconsistency

Postby BlazeTool » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:10 pm

Kuhlkatz wrote:Even with no other signage explicitly prohibiting a straight through drive, my guess would be that this is illegal in most places.


At the intersection that started the discussion, the signage in place explicitly lists that you can go straight.
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Re: Junction style guide: ramp restriction inconsistency

Postby BlazeTool » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:06 pm

In cases where it is legal to go straight, wouldn't this cause Problem Reports whenever someone does go straight? While seemingly pointless to do so, I have no doubt it happens.
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Junction style guide: ramp restriction inconsistency

Postby Bigbear3764 » Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:32 pm

On the client, no instruction. In live map with routing script, it lists all the continues in the right side.


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Re: Junction style guide: ramp restriction inconsistency

Postby AndyPoms » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:00 pm

bz2012 wrote:My e-mail to support on this subject has never been answered.
Check your ISP's spam filters... you are looking for "Waze Support" <inbox@my.nanorep.com>...
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