Proposed update to the wiki - UK Quickstart page

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Re: Proposed update to the wiki - How to label cities page

Postby Timbones » Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:49 pm

woodvale is right - we do need better examples on that page that use "cities with counties".
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Postby seriousarsonist » Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:45 pm

Addresses it perfectly!

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Postby seriousarsonist » Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:39 pm

Probably a moot point, but, in the bit that EVERY editor SHOULD know the every segment is connected by 1 or 2 nodes bit might need a little * for reminding people that every segment should have 2 nodes even if it doesn't have 2 junctions. While this is great for getting loads of points quickly in an area it would be nice if people terminated sections when they add them.

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Postby woodvale » Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:31 pm

OK (and I agree) but which bit to delete? Unless you can reword and combine some of the points.....?


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Postby woodvale » Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:28 pm

Edited: name changed to reflect subject now about UK Quickstart page

The How to Label Cities section on Postal vs Actual Addresses lists, as an example, Bromley (Kent) which is in the LB Bromley. However, as that Bromley is the largest town of that name in the UK, the rules dictate that it should drop the (County) suffix and, on the map, we show it as "Bromley".

Ditto Enfield, which the wiki refers to as Enfield (Middx), but which is only seen on the map as "Enfield", although there is a set of streets with the city set to Enfield (Middlesex) just north-west of Gordon Hill on the map, and as an alt name on Myddleton Ave in Forty Hill.

The other example given in the wiki is Hornchurch, and Hornchurch and South Hornchurch, both in Essex, are the only Hornchurches in the UK, so don't need a suffix, meaning we have a slightly misleading set of examples.

We do have a couple of good examples - Belmont in LB Harrow, and Belmont in LB Sutton. The Sutton version is correctly shown on the map as Belmont (Surrey). The Barnet version is shown as Belmont (London) where it should be Belmont (Middx) according to the Gazetteer. There are quite a few other Belmonts around the country, and I have no idea which could claim to be the largest.

As Belmont is a good example of the Postal vs Actual Addresses scenario, can I suggest that we drop the use of Bromley, Enfield and Hornchurch, and amend the wiki to use the Belmont examples.

What do people think?
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Postby seriousarsonist » Mon Dec 24, 2012 5:31 pm

Go for it!
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Postby richardjeeves » Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:25 pm

Hi all...
For the parts of Hornchurch I can edit (edge of my area) I've already dropped (Essex) suffix along with nearby Romford... Rainham keeps its suffix because of rainham in Kent...
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Postby woodvale » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:42 am

LB = London Borough. That section of the wiki highlighted that the issue was common around London where postal addresses use the counties of Middlesex, Essex, Kent and so on. I presume there are similar examples around Birmingham, Manchester and other conurbations where new local authority boundaries were drawn without postal addresses changing.


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Postby seriousarsonist » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:00 pm

Terribly sorry but what does LB stand for? I'm guessing local borough but not really sure.

Probably just my NI confused self as it is a bit different here (we'd need some very different and rather complicated rules)
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