Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby littlestlou » Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:18 pm

Co Rd is now pronounced as "Coe Road" and not "County Road". Also contrary to naming conventions on the wiki. Again, this is a new issue, not a problem up until this release...
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby Alice2 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:52 pm

AndyPoms wrote:
jasonh300 wrote:It's most likely because the word "To" on the ramp is capitalized, which doesn't conform to the standard.

I'm going to send a PM to the editor in question and make sure this is just a typo and not widespread.
Remember there was a period of time when auto-capitalization just started where the word "to" was not exempt & it was automatically changed to "To", so there may be more ramps out there like this...

I just drove this route again today, and the TTS was correct this time! https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-98.59 ... s=48129505 The "to" is also now lower case in the editor. However I see that there are several (could be many) instances of upper case "To" all around. My experience must have been a one-time thing if no one else has come across the "stay left on to I XX".
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby AndyPoms » Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:58 pm

jasonh300 wrote:It's most likely because the word "To" on the ramp is capitalized, which doesn't conform to the standard.

I'm going to send a PM to the editor in question and make sure this is just a typo and not widespread.
Remember there was a period of time when auto-capitalization just started where the word "to" was not exempt & it was automatically changed to "To", so there may be more ramps out there like this...
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby jasonh300 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:35 pm

It's most likely because the word "To" on the ramp is capitalized, which doesn't conform to the standard.

I'm going to send a PM to the editor in question and make sure this is just a typo and not widespread.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby Alice2 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:57 am

https://www.waze.com/editor/?lon=-98.59 ... s=48129505 The 2 I-10 west TTS directions came to direct me to the highlighted segment. I have not yet tested any other entrance segments on this stretch of road.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby jasonh300 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:46 am

Alice2 wrote:So, what do we do now? Today I heard Samantha say (twice) "keep left at to I 10 west" and it really was unclear if she meant to, two, or maybe too. It gave the impression there were two I 10 west roads. Sounded strange. Maybe she wasn't feeling well!!


Where exactly did this occur?
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby Alice2 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:14 am

So, what do we do now? Today I heard Samantha say (twice) "keep left at to I 10 west" and it really was unclear if she meant to, two, or maybe too. It gave the impression there were two I 10 west roads. Sounded strange. Maybe she wasn't feeling well!!
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:01 pm

khaytsus wrote:...
just "S R D" isn't good either. :)


True, since with the spaces, TTS would speak it as "South R D". And the only way to get the four cardinal letters spoken as letters is to put them in lower case in single quotes, which would sure make your case look strange.

If you look close, there are also a few things in the list that we actually recommend to NOT use, and hopefully Waze will find a way to remove them in the future. (Like "Penn" for Pennsylvania, as then there is no way to have "Penn Road" spoken correctly, unless you misspell it :( )
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby khaytsus » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:01 am

GizmoGuy411 wrote:
khaytsus wrote:Anyone know the proper abbreviation for Sideroad? I thought it was Srd and had been using this, but that is pronounced "S R D". Not seeing it in the spreadsheet either.


Remember that the list is a test to learn every possible abbreviation that the TTS knows, and not necessarily a recommendation of what to use.

I consider it the authoritative list, since we don't otherwise get one from the Waze folks ;) But as you say, no abbreviation so I went ahead with "Side Road". Not that many in town, just "S R D" isn't good either. :)
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:13 pm

khaytsus wrote:Anyone know the proper abbreviation for Sideroad? I thought it was Srd and had been using this, but that is pronounced "S R D". Not seeing it in the spreadsheet either.


Remember that the list is a test to learn every possible abbreviation that the TTS knows, and not necessarily a recommendation of what to use.

Since this is a bit of an usual case, and the name is not that long, I think it is best to not abbreviate it at all. (Falling back to our motto here of, "When in doubt, spell it out".

Of course I would still like to test for possible abbreviations, just not sure where to start. I did a Google search and found a few uses for "Sideroad" but did not see any useful abbreviations to test.

If you can find actual street signs using an abbreviation, it may help.

If you find the name as two words, then "Side Rd" should be fine. If you find "Sideroad" or "Side-road" then I suppose a specific abbreviation may be in order. From what I have read so far, it looks like the single word noun, "sideroad" is pretty much a Canadian usage, with little additional information. And as already pointed out, at least the Candian Post has no abbreviation listed for it.
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