Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

[DwarfLord]

Already, MT = "mountain" according to the big list.

Does this mean "Mt St Helens Dr" would TTS as "Mountain Saint Helens Drive"? In that case street names beginning with "Mount" should probably continue to spell it out.

I am curious about this topic but as I do not quite know where the "big list" is officially documented and how TTS chooses from the "big list" as opposed to the list published in the Abbreviations and acronyms wiki -- I assume it involves the position of the abbreviation within the sequence but am not completely clear -- I should probably go back to lurking...!

[DwarfLord]

Quick testing today showed these results. Only one failure.

Dr. MLK Jr. Pkwy = doctor em ell kay junior parkway
St. Penn Pkwy W = saint pen parkway west
Dr. St. John St = doctor saint jon street
St. Dr. St N = saint doctor street north
S Penn Dr = south pen drive
Penn Dr S = pen drive south
SH-219 = state highway two nineteen
US-410 BUS S = you ess four ten business south
I-84 BUS = eye eighty four bus

Talk about the "usual suspects"!

Can I suggest adding "Mt." (or Mt?) for "Mount" to the "usual suspects" list? Rarer than the others perhaps, but even in my neighborhood there is a "Mount Hermon Rd". We spell it out now and nobody's in a hurry to change that, but it would be nice to know if we could abbreviate if we wanted to.

Edit: In Washington there must be a "Mt St Helens Dr" or something like it somewhere

[dsfargeg]

Opinion wanted:
Jane pronounces Hylan drive in Henrietta NY so it rhymes with Dylan. Should be HIGH-lin. Confusing enough to change? If so i'll provide the segment links and TTS files.

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[dsfargeg]

So driving around, i've found 3 more TTS problems. It seems like this could get out of hand easily. Do we have a "good enough" threshold, or do we want to report everything?

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[dsfargeg]

Files attached.
1440499777-887347-10.tts: Correct pronounciation when reading the address of the destination on Latta Road.
1440499779-24500-21.tts: Incorrect pronounciation when turning from Manitou to Latta.

The pitch and tone of the prompt is different, but neither sounds more like landa than Latta to me. I'm not sure we'll be able to do anything on this one.

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Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. How should I respond to the ur?

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[dsfargeg]

So my turn onto Latta Road was:
from Manitou Rd Southbound
To Latta Rd Eastbound

I'm not hearing it wrong, or I'm not understanding what you're hoping to hear. Are you able to get the tts file that sounds wrong, and one that sounds right from your phone?

Files attached.
1440499777-887347-10.tts: Correct pronounciation when reading the address of the destination on Latta Road.
1440499779-24500-21.tts: Incorrect pronounciation when turning from Manitou to Latta.

[dsfargeg]

So my turn onto Latta Road was:
from Manitou Rd Southbound
To Latta Rd Eastbound

Regarding the wiki page, I got to this forum thread from Abbreviations_and_acronyms/USA#Pronunciation_fixes. Maybe this deserves its own wiki page.

Anyways, If I do a "cc@tts" first, and pick source and destination near the offending road name, there aren't many TTS files to go through.

[dsfargeg]

Is there a way to test without driving?

Yes. You can create directions using the app that travel over the desired segment. Then with Android, you can open the *.tts files with an app like ES File Explorer. Use that app's own player to open them as audio. They are stored in \waze\tts\database\. Then \Jane\ if you're using the Jane voice.

I don't think it is possible to browse such folders with iOS.

Wow, that's awesome! Should this go on the wiki page?

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[dsfargeg]

This is not a problem with the word Latta, rather related to an overarching problem with exit names.

This happens far from the freeway though. I cringe every time i drive it. [WHITE SMILING FACE]

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If you give me a permalink to the exact segment it happens with, (Turning from which segment, to which segment) I can test that specific case too.

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Sure. I'll drive that way to work this morning and send the exact segment

Is there a way to test without driving?

[dsfargeg]

This is not a problem with the word Latta, rather related to an overarching problem with exit names.

This happens far from the freeway though. I cringe every time i drive it. ☺

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