Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby davipt » Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:43 pm

paulwelch23 wrote:If there's a strip mall with several shops along a highway, what should be mapped? Only the parking lot to suppress a jam? The shopping center in general, also? Individual shops? I've seen it done a number of ways, but which is the best?


I usually create one landmark for the mall building and a landmark around it for the open-air parking lot, and give the same name to both. The parking lot landmark is irrelevant for the traffic jam according to waze and several tests - only parking lot roads do suppress traffic. Both landmarks will be seen as one, as the colour is the same, but I'd rather have two than only one for the parking lot. I'll never create individual shops, unless they are quite big ones in a very very large mall place, and even then only the ones that are quite big.

If there is no open-air parking, I only create the mall, example.
Sometimes even if the parking is open, but smaller than the mall, I also avoid the parking lot landmark. example
Here's a case of mall+plot example
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby bgodette » Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:27 am

AndyPoms wrote:
antigerme wrote:
jasonh300 wrote:I forgot to post this in this thread. Official word came down regarding Parking Lot landmarks in the NA server:


Myth busted!

We can break other myths? :lol:

The information is for the whole infrastructure, NA and ROTW.


HOWEVER,
Unholy wrote:Gas stations and parking lots landmarks do suppress the creation of map problems
So, the guideline not to snap them to a road is a valid one.
Well this is somewhat annoying as it means PLot segments are needed to prevent pollution from gas stations, convenience stores, coffee shops, and drive thrus.
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby AndyPoms » Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:24 pm

antigerme wrote:
jasonh300 wrote:I forgot to post this in this thread. Official word came down regarding Parking Lot landmarks in the NA server:

Hi Jason,

Landmarks do not suppress traffic jams.
We do [have] plans to use this feature, but we didn't try it live yet.


Ori


Myth busted!

We can break other myths? :lol:

The information is for the whole infrastructure, NA and ROTW.


HOWEVER,
Unholy wrote:Gas stations and parking lots landmarks do suppress the creation of map problems
So, the guideline not to snap them to a road is a valid one.
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby antigerme » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:41 pm

jasonh300 wrote:I forgot to post this in this thread. Official word came down regarding Parking Lot landmarks in the NA server:

Hi Jason,

Landmarks do not suppress traffic jams.
We do [have] plans to use this feature, but we didn't try it live yet.


Ori


Myth busted!

We can break other myths? :lol:

The information is for the whole infrastructure, NA and ROTW.
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby jasonh300 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:29 pm

I forgot to post this in this thread. Official word came down regarding Parking Lot landmarks in the NA server:

Hi Jason,

Landmarks do not suppress traffic jams.
We do [have] plans to use this feature, but we didn't try it live yet.


Ori
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby bgodette » Fri Jan 18, 2013 7:42 pm

AndyPoms wrote:Please do not trust this test at this time, there are several issues with the way it was conducted/what it tested for.
Seems ok to me. The PLot landmark was added Jan 12th and is live. There's currently automatic "heavy traffic" being reported (the road is red) on "Av. Santos Dumont".

This does differ from testing preformed previously on NA, so perhaps this is yet another example of the separate infrastructures working unintentionally different.
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby AndyPoms » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:30 pm

Please do not trust this test at this time, there are several issues with the way it was conducted/what it tested for.

Wolfeye wrote:So, if we can exclude landmarks from suppressing traffic. There is only road types left. Plot roads must then suppress traffic? (me speculating)
Yes, Parking Lot Roads do.

Wolfeye wrote: Do private roads suppress traffic too?
No, they do not.
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby mssusa » Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:18 pm

I never bother with Plot landmarks anyway, but what about gas stations? I never did real testing but when I'm filling up I see no traffic reports generated.

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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby davipt » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:53 pm

antigerme wrote:
Wolfeye wrote:Could we get some proof of that?


I covered the entire route with landmark Parking Lot. :mrgreen:


thanks for the test! I hope it's clear for everybody now.
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby antigerme » Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:48 pm

Wolfeye wrote:
antigerme wrote:Landmark not suppress traffic jams, is a myth.

Could we get some proof of that?


Please look at my test.
https://world.waze.com/editor/?zoom=6&l ... ks=1582134
[ img ]

I covered the entire route with landmark Parking Lot. :mrgreen:
Even covered the entire road Waze keep doing automatic traffic jam alerts.
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