Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

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Re: Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby paulwelch23 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:50 pm

mapcat wrote:In the USA, we're not supposed to be adding gas station landmarks. They imported a special uneditable layer for those.


Wow. I wish I had known that before. So, I assume there is jam suppression from this hidden layer?

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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby paulwelch23 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:22 pm

It seems that the only point for Landmarks in the USA are to indicate parks, large shopping establishments, gas stations, and stand-alone parking lots. Am I missing something here?

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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby paulwelch23 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:14 pm

Me either. Only the 3rd party list of stations show near me and they don't seem to be in any particular order.

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Re: Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby paulwelch23 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:23 pm

Unholy wrote:3. If you wish to prevent "ghost traffic" jams and prevent Waze from navigating you through gas station road, please set the type of road in these gas stations to "parking lot" roads.


Would it be best to do this for other SMALL landmarks that create these jams (fast food joints, dry cleaners, etc.), rather than adding a parking lot landmark? Or is ignoring the waze generated problems like these the best route to avoid cluttering the map? I wish the small parking lot landmarks or parking lot roads could be hidden in the client to prevent clutter.

At least we have some clarification on NA gas stations. Thanks, Unholy. :smile:

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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby petervdveen » Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:39 pm

If this topic is specific for the US, then why isn't it placed in the US forum?
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby pitzikun » Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:25 am

I've had some thoughts about the parking lot landmark and parking lot roads. The one thing I do see in the client when the parking lot roads show up is typically a jumbled clutter. To me, this looks bad. There is a case when they can be useful, such as marking the road to the Hotel behind the Mcdonalds next to the walmart behind the shopping plaza off the main highway. I'm personally going to delete road'ed parking lots that fit the jumbled mess criteria and replace with landmarks. Then on the main roadway, put very short road segments to denote where a parking lots entrance and exit is located.

I feel like it mights be useful if a landmark of different types could be given their own position in a hierarchy or assigned to a layer. Why not be able to look at a restaurant layer when I'm hungry? I know navigation is great, and it's nice to get an idea of which bridge is gonna have a bigger traffic jam, but it also seems like mapping could be set up now to do more with later.

Also, why do landmarks snap to roads again?
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby razor2k » Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:56 am

daknife wrote: Besides how are they accounting for private land mixed in with the National Forest?


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Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby rbthomp76 » Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:56 pm

I think it would be great if parking lots did not appear in the client. Can we have them on a separate layer? I think they present a better solution than parking lot roads (which can get pretty nasty looking especially along frontage roads).

(I'm very thankful that I haven't needed to use Waze to get out of any parking lots!!!).


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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby Riamus » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:36 pm

It is extremely easy to find a hotel using the category search in Waze without it needing to be visible on the map. I think that, in general, the USA landmark guideline thread linked a few posts up is a good reference. I might have a few minor issues with it, but they are certainly minor and not something that really matters all that much. I'm okay with it as it currently stands in that thread.
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Re: Wiki page suggestion: Landmarks

Postby Riamus » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:00 pm

Once we have a POI system where you just have an icon at a point on the map, it will be nice to have these on the map (and other items). Until then, the landmarks just start looking like a mess when you add a lot of unnecessary ones to the map. That and the rule is currently not to map them even if it did look fine. I personally don't like seeing a ton of landmarks on the map because they just look bad. I don't care for the patchwork quilt look. But I don't mind seeing POI icons at the various points with optionally a text label for at least the important ones.
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