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Re: Road splitting qualifications

Postby crazycomputingdotnet » Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:14 pm

At 100M there is a noticeable gap in GPS from the HWY down to Monroe St. It is a candidate for splitting and then you can mapcat bowtie that intersection to allow the U. I wouldn't normally split it if there are no URs that pop up indicating routing issues, but since there is a U-turn allowed you can split it from the HWY to Monroe with no problems to allow the U-turns where it is allowed.
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Re: Road splitting qualifications

Postby harling » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:15 pm

txemt wrote:If you know how to do it right, the first time, it'll take you 10 minutes to split it. :)

However, before you split a perfectly good two-way road, let's find out if/when Waze plans to implement proper U-turn routing on two-way roads, and consider holding off until then. (It appears to be planned, though details are not yet forthcoming.)
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Re: Road splitting qualifications

Postby jemay » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:30 pm

harling wrote:However, before you split a perfectly good two-way road, let's find out if/when Waze plans to implement proper U-turn routing on two-way roads, and consider holding off until then. (It appears to be planned, though details are not yet forthcoming.)

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Re: Road splitting qualifications

Postby kentsmith9 » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:12 am

At first my feeling was not to split that road, but having looked at it in more detail I think it actually qualifies to be split for the following reasons:
1. There are no points other than intersections where you can cross the median.
2. While the GPS tracks at 100m generally don't show a gap, they most certainly are wide enough to show significant breadth.
3. There are places where the road is actually 12 lanes wide between the north and south directions.
4. It is an Expressway marked as a Minor Highway (which I believe is appropriate). There are very few connections to the road from cross streets that are not full intersections.
5. We do have legal U-turns that are not being allowed. As mentioned the Mapcat Bowtie would work great if we split the road.

Even if we had legal U-Turns I would recommend this road being split based on the above criteria. Note that a few of the cross streets to Lawrence are currently split and do NOT qualify to stay split, but that is another discussion. ;)
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Road splitting qualifications

Postby rcenteno_davis » Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:57 pm

Just wanted to get some opinions. There is a UR in this area about the U-turn being allowed. However since the road is not split, there is no easy way to change the map to allow the turn.

But looking at this area some more, I believe Lawrence Expressway fits the qualifications to be split.

https://www.waze.com/editor/?zoom=5&lat ... s=70598247

But given it's such a long road, is it really, really, worth the effort to split?
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Re: Road splitting qualifications

Postby TruckOttr » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:46 pm

I recommend not splitting the road.
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Re: Road splitting qualifications

Postby txemt » Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:40 pm

If you know how to do it right, the first time, it'll take you 10 minutes to split it. :)
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Re: Road splitting qualifications

Postby txemt » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:58 pm

jemay wrote:
harling wrote:However, before you split a perfectly good two-way road, let's find out if/when Waze plans to implement proper U-turn routing on two-way roads, and consider holding off until then. (It appears to be planned, though details are not yet forthcoming.)

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I don't think it's a thread, I think it's a topic to be discussed at the meeting in March.
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Re: Road splitting qualifications

Postby txemt » Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:59 pm

TruckOttr wrote:I recommend not splitting the road.


Why not? There's a median in the middle that prevents users from turning onto side streets.
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