Default Map Colors

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Default Map Colors

Postby The Fej » Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:08 pm

Thinking of making a change and making it more colorful (yet enabling to display the additional information and maintaining visibility), we'd like your view on the 2 options we are examining currently:

The 'Yellow' option (assuming we will not display yellow (low) traffic jams):

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The 'Greenish' option (as we do not display roads without traffic as green):

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So, please feel free to tell us your view
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Re: Default Map Colors

Postby hodgetts » Mon Jul 19, 2010 10:42 pm

I like both options - on balance I think the yellow option is nicer, but it needs a little more difference between the shades per road type. It's always good to be able to spot the difference between motorways (freeways) and Major/Minor highways. Also you could still show the low traffic jams in a vivid (but strong) yellow rather than shades of orange.

I would certainly like to see both options on my iPhone client to try to live with them.

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Re: Default Map Colors

Postby gerben » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:16 am

I've been using the user-made scheme with Cartouche colours for a while now. I will keep using this one because it shows all (major) road types in a different colour, so they are a lot more recognizable than the different shades of the same colour as used in the current and now proposed schemes.
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Re: Default Map Colors

Postby RickW-NC » Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:21 am

I was thinking about the map colors the other night. They were annoying on a long night trip but I was did not turn the brightness down either. I was thinking a more red-based scheme at night (like an airplane cockpit) would be more suitable. Also I think there a 3 types of colorblindness, and it might be good to have a scheme for each one. There should be color studies available somewhere or consult your local eye doctor. I also discovered that deer were not marked on the map. Is there some way chips can be inserted in them to warn us late at night? They can ruin an otherwise wonderful trip.
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Re: Default Map Colors

Postby ES110178 » Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:42 am

We have made our self Colourscheme for Germany.
Freeway`s are here blue, Minor Highways Yellow.
See yourself -> viewtopic.php?f=75&t=3211&start=0

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Re: Default Map Colors

Postby hallmike » Tue Jul 20, 2010 12:50 pm

I'd prefer that you not waste time and resources making anything prettier until all of the numerous frustrating bugs, glitches, and errors have been fixed. Stop putting form ahead of function. If it doesn't work, it won't matter how it looks because no one will be looking at it.
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Re: Default Map Colors

Postby muchski » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:57 am

Yeah I think map improvements are important too! A map and app has to look good to have mass appeal, but even more so from a functional perspective I am having a problem in Winnipeg that the basic Govt map data made the Primary Streets all Major Highways, not a big deal as I want to change them to Primary Streets but the problem is Primary Streets dont appear at a far enough zoom level.

To illustrate my example look at how the waze client looks on my phone for the city of Winnipeg. If I change all the major hwys to primary street, the average wazer would think there is a void inside of the ring hwy that encircles my city called the Perimeter Hwy.
http://www.photoboothweb.com/image.php?id=0720tr876n7p

compared to on the cartouche which although clunkier looking at least shows primary streets when almost the entire city of Winnipeg is viewed.
http://www.waze.com/cartouche/?zoom=0&l ... FFFFFFTTTT

So basically I am hoping for primary streets to be more visible at further zooms so you can see the basic layout of the city using this important streets. I dont want to label these roads minor hwy or major hwy just to be visible (not that I have intentionally done so!).

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Re: Default Map Colors

Postby QuickOK » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:35 am

I vote for Greenish or whichever map properly displays all four stages of traffic
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Re: Default Map Colors

Postby sketch » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:54 pm

hallmike wrote:I'd prefer that you not waste time and resources making anything prettier until all of the numerous frustrating bugs, glitches, and errors have been fixed. Stop putting form ahead of function. If it doesn't work, it won't matter how it looks because no one will be looking at it.

It's all been working pretty nicely for me. An attractive application is an application that is pleasant to use. No one wants to stare at an ugly map all day, and the more users that like it, the more users we have, and the better the maps get.

Anyway, greenish is nice! I've been using Tutti-frutti in the client because it's the only one that differentiates between streets and minor highways and between minor highways and freeways. This distinction is paramount, as far as I'm concerned; I don't even like the Tutti-frutti scheme that much :P
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Re: Default Map Colors

Postby hallmike » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:50 pm

sketch wrote:It's all been working pretty nicely for me.

Really? You don't get server timeouts when requesting a route? You don't have issues with segments folding back upon themselves when removing a junction? You don't have any segments in your area that appear to be connected but really aren't? Your dashboard routes are updated correctly every night? You don't experience any of a dozen other issues everyone else is complaining about? I'd like to know how you got the bug-free version so I can get it too!

sketch wrote:An attractive application is an application that is pleasant to use. No one wants to stare at an ugly map all day, and the more users that like it, the more users we have, and the better the maps get.

OK, but this application is a lot more than just staring at a map all day. It's supposed to be interactive an allow you to update the map problems. But when bugs and glitches prevent you from editing correctly, or make it too frustrating to do so, all those users that came because of the pretty maps will leave.
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