New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby grebble » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:45 pm

I have sent an e-mail to the devs asking them to comment on this thread and to let us know what the situation is.
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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby rcocchiararo » Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:10 pm

for my nexus running froyo its un-usable

it reboots my phone all the time ! :(

my screen never sleeps when running waze

And leaving waze running in background prevents the crashes (but also using it..)

i almost never drive in unknown areas, i tried it with full/low/half battery

i tried it with a car charger and without...


if a new version wont be out before SEPTEMBER 18th, then im a sad person....

ps: temperature has nothing to do with it, i have reboots now that the heat is rising, i had reboots on the ultra cold days of the past weeks (here in argentina).
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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby unwallflower » Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:08 pm

damaniac wrote:Where is the feedback from the developers?


For me personally, THIS is the biggest frustration.

I seem to remember that not too long ago the waze team said they were going to try to communicate with their user base better. It worked quite well actually for a bit, but now we're back to the old guessing game.

I'm frustrated that waze reboots my phone every time I use it. I'm really frustrated that I'm losing a LOT of points and map-editing permissions due to this (on top of some other routes that they mysteriously "lost" earlier this summer and never got back to me on). But really, I'm mostly just frustrated that they can't seem to communicate.

They need a strong user base in order for waze to grow and succeed, and leaving us in the dark with our non-functional versions is not the way to build that user base.
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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby DAmaNIac » Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:23 pm

Concerning your suggestions that it may have something to do with the battery level I can say for sure that it does have nothing to do with crashes on my phone. It crashes with full, half level and nearly empty battery. It crashes when very hot, when cooled down, when charged, when not charged, when you touch it and scroll through the map, when you don't touch it and it simply displays the map, when it loads new street tiles, when it displays already loaded screen tiles, when running with multiple programs on the phone, when being the only program installed on a fresh updated phone, with auto background light on, with auto light off, while navigation, without navigation... did I forget any possible state this software can be in?

I wonder if they do invest half the time and effort into the Android version compared to the iPhone version. Where is the feedback from the developers?
Honestly speaking, each time I read about the incredible new features on Facebook for the new iPhone version and how they pamper that community I get a little angry and disappointed.
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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby grebble » Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:51 am

It's about a month for the full version, but the beta should be ready before then. I guess the reason for the delay on the beta is because they're still trying to figure out what is causing the crashing.

I seem to find that Waze is more stable when the battery is fully charged. Don't know why that should make a difference, but the crashes and reboots seem to happen far more often when the battery is low, regardless of whether or not the charger is connected.
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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby zottel » Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:45 am

My experiences on a Nexus One, daily use in weekdays:

  • I didn't have problems with 1.8.99.106 ot the other betas before, but I also didn't have Froyo at that time. (Was on Enomther's Eclair ROM at that point that caused reboots (even reboot loops) by itself, but that was completely unrelated to waze, and I don't remember a reboot loop starting when waze was running.)
  • I'm not 100% sure when the rebooting actually started, but I think it was after I updated to stock Froyo.
  • I had quite frequent reboots for some time. They were unrelated to whether the display was on or off or whether I tried to interact with waze or not. (At first I even thought it happened only when the display was off because my first few reboots were in that state.)
  • The reboots seemed to happen only shortly after waze startup at first, but later I found that they also could took place at any other time during the drive.
  • Then the rebooting suddenly stopped maybe three or four weeks ago. I've been driving around daily since then with waze on and without a single reboot—except one day one and a half weeks ago when I had two or three reboots during waze use on one single day.
  • I didn't ever experience any freezes or other, non-rebooting issues; I never had to remove the battery. There are hangs sometimes where waze doesn't update the display and can't be interacted with for ten or twenty seconds, but it always gets back to normal after that. (Though I think when a reboot occurs, it starts with a similar state, for at the few times when I directly saw it happen, there was a frozen display, too.)

The fact that I had so few reboots lately and the only ones on a rather hot day led to me speculating that it could be a temperature issue. But since then there was a much hotter day that showed no issues at all. While temperature issues would of course show unpredictable behaviour, I don't think it's very probable to get several reboots on a rather hot day and later none on a very hot day.

On the reboot day, OTOH, I drove routes that were unkown yet, which has become rather seldom for me. Most routes I drive are different ways to work which have all been well-known to ways for a while now.

But then again, this day was not the only time when I drove unknown roads. Could be the one with the most on one day, though.

Very difficult to nail down, it seems. I hope the waze team will be able to find a solution, but this definitely looks like a horribly difficult-to-fix problem.
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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby IvarKa » Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:04 am

Hoping any day now!


Posted on Facebook on August 18:

Waze Update for android will be out in about a month or so


So "any day" is not tomorrow :(
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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby rcocchiararo » Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:05 am

after some experiments (all on android 2.2), i now know that the first time i run waze after changing my phone ROM, and wiping cache and dalvik-cache, i can make one "long" (30 to 40 minutes) trip.

then it all goes weird and i have constant reboots.

if i keep waze minimized it does not reboot my phone :/

any day now is getting way to long now for a new version :(
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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby unwallflower » Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:12 pm

muchski wrote:Can't wait for Version 2.0! I can feel it! Hoping any day now! I wanna join groups! Despite being area manager I use Android so I couldn't even make the group for my area. In a way it's good because it is encouraging that there are so many other active Wazers in Winnipeg too! :)


Wish I had as much faith in them as you do.

Now I, like others, would be happy settling for an updated version that just actually WORKS. I tried to use waze on a drive yesterday... tried five separate times to open it, and every single time it made my phone reboot completely. Ridiculous. I finally gave up. Maybe it'll work today, but I'm not going to hold my breath.
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Re: New Android Beta Version - 1.8.99.106

Postby muchski » Sun Aug 22, 2010 4:59 am

Can't wait for Version 2.0! I can feel it! Hoping any day now! I wanna join groups! Despite being area manager I use Android so I couldn't even make the group for my area. In a way it's good because it is encouraging that there are so many other active Wazers in Winnipeg too! :)
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