Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby Riamus » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:24 am

Just in case you were replying to me rather than the previous posts, I'm referring to the Name field, not the Brand field. :)
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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby CrackedLCD » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:20 am

You guys are waaay over thinking this naming scheme. Do what GasBuddy and YP and everyone else does: use the brand name on the sign. If no brand name, use the station's name. If that isn't obvious, say Unbranded.

It is completely irrelevant to the users whether Costco gets their gas from BP or Conoco or Marathon. It's a Costco gas station and it should be labelled as such. Walmart stations are all Murphy USA unless they're not on-property, then they're Murphy Express. Sam's Club is Sam's Club. We should follow the same rules other gas price sites use for the sake of clarity.

In my area, we have a lot of Tom Thumb stations (the Kroger one, not the one in the midwest) and they all use CITGO. CITGO even has their logo on some of the pumps, but everyone knows it as Tom Thumb. So that's how they're labelled. Only the non-Tom Thumb CITGOs are called CITGOs around here.
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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby Riamus » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:14 am

It was suggested that I ask this here as there's little movement in the NC forum. Which name is best to use for the gas stations? In one location nearby, there are 2 gas stations across the street from one another and both were imported. Both have a local name and a brand/franchise name. One station is labeled with their local name, but all signage at the location says Citgo. You can't find the local name on any sign there. The other station has the local name on the signage, but the imported name is the franchise name. It's my opinion that these should be listed by whatever is most prominent the signage. If the brand or franchise is the most visible name, then I think that should be used. If the local name is the most visible name, then I think that is the one that should be used. Basically, on a case-by-case basis. I wanted to get some advice from others before deciding to do that, though.

Btw, just as a side note in case anyone hasn't noticed yet. If an imported gas station was imported at the wrong location (for example, one of the 2 I mentioned was imported about 1/4 mile or so away from the correct location), the update gas price feature from the client will not find it when you're at the station even if you have corrected the placement of the landmark. You'll have to drive to where it was imported in order to update the price. I'm guessing it's using the imported GPS coordinates instead of the coordinates of the landmark. I'm sure they will correct that once the gas feature is completed, but it's something to keep in mind.
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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby AndyPoms » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:22 am

skapur1 wrote:
AndyPoms wrote:I think that the "Brand" field should relate to the Marketing/Signage as that is most visible.


I think this is a simple and easy to follow rule. Just like any other street sign (or expressway exit sign...)

Waze editors are not gasoline quality control police and so should not try to enforce branding agreements by what brand truck goes to what brand gas station.

Please see my more detailed post here: viewtopic.php?f=129&t=46426&start=10#p418782
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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby skapur1 » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:20 am

AndyPoms wrote:I think that the "Brand" field should relate to the Marketing/Signage as that is most visible.


I think this is a simple and easy to follow rule. Just like any other street sign (or expressway exit sign...)

Waze editors are not gasoline quality control police and so should not try to enforce branding agreements by what brand truck goes to what brand gas station.
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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:05 pm

kentsmith9 wrote:I spend an incredible amount of time on Waze and I still can barely even touch the surface of all the threads in the forums. :?

FASTER! :mrgreen:
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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby kentsmith9 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:52 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:1. Yes, that is my understanding and what I've written in the guidelines post.

Sorry, I missed that one... viewtopic.php?f=129&t=46426 :(

I spend an incredible amount of time on Waze and I still can barely even touch the surface of all the threads in the forums. :?
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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:46 pm

kentsmith9 wrote:* Are we changing the all caps name to title case, or do we leave it all caps to track it was an imported landmark?
* If converting to title case, do we want to do anything to track it was imported?

1. Yes, that is my understanding and what I've written in the guidelines post.
2. I don't know. But does it, in the end, matter? Just like ROTW, eventually, all gas station landmarks imported or added manually, will be available in the app for updating pricing.
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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby kentsmith9 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:43 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
Mattiedale wrote:Sorry, sometimes you got to hit me with a sledge hammer, but, is the name is all upper case, convert it or not?

Follow the guidelines posted.

Actually I am not clear of the original question, so I will repost the question I thought was being asked:

* Are we changing the all caps name to title case, or do we leave it all caps to track it was an imported landmark?
* If converting to title case, do we want to do anything to track it was imported?
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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:46 pm

Mattiedale wrote:Sorry, sometimes you got to hit me with a sledge hammer, but, is the name is all upper case, convert it or not?

Follow the guidelines posted.
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