Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby shirlig » Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:10 pm

Hi guys,

Gas stations in the US have been uploaded to the editor and they are now available as landmarks.
The idea is that gas stations will now behave in the US the same way they behave in the INTL server.

A few answers:
1) We tried to merge the duplicate gas stations but if you still see duplicate gas stations - please delete the ones that don't contain info in it (the added gas stations are usually in uppercase, have phone numbers,address, etc ).
2) Until we fix something in the server side - gas stations added by users as landmarks will not always be available in the client. We are working on it and it will be available soon.
3) In a few hours, you will also be able to select the brand of the station from a list. We know this list is not complete and we will add/remove brands as required during the upcoming weeks.
4) We highly recommend NOT to delete the gas stations that we integrated (usually their names appear in uppercase, they contain data like phone number, address etc) to the map because we will also lose automatic update of prices from the external resource. (You can edit their details, just don't delete them)
4) We will add brands to Canada in the upcoming days as well.

thanks,
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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby Riamus » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:24 am

Just in case you were replying to me rather than the previous posts, I'm referring to the Name field, not the Brand field. :)
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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby Riamus » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:14 am

It was suggested that I ask this here as there's little movement in the NC forum. Which name is best to use for the gas stations? In one location nearby, there are 2 gas stations across the street from one another and both were imported. Both have a local name and a brand/franchise name. One station is labeled with their local name, but all signage at the location says Citgo. You can't find the local name on any sign there. The other station has the local name on the signage, but the imported name is the franchise name. It's my opinion that these should be listed by whatever is most prominent the signage. If the brand or franchise is the most visible name, then I think that should be used. If the local name is the most visible name, then I think that is the one that should be used. Basically, on a case-by-case basis. I wanted to get some advice from others before deciding to do that, though.

Btw, just as a side note in case anyone hasn't noticed yet. If an imported gas station was imported at the wrong location (for example, one of the 2 I mentioned was imported about 1/4 mile or so away from the correct location), the update gas price feature from the client will not find it when you're at the station even if you have corrected the placement of the landmark. You'll have to drive to where it was imported in order to update the price. I'm guessing it's using the imported GPS coordinates instead of the coordinates of the landmark. I'm sure they will correct that once the gas feature is completed, but it's something to keep in mind.
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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby PhantomSoul » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:03 pm

sketch wrote:
PhantomSoul wrote:I don't see how anything other than the most prevalent sign you see by the side of the road is relevant here. Just my $0.02 ;)

Exxon Circle K has a huge Exxon logo and a huge Circle K logo on their signs. Some other places do this too (like the Cracker Barrel Store chain).

It also gives us guidance for instances where both are available in the Brand field, like Exxon and Circle K, or Shell and Cracker Barrel (IIRC). There are stations which are only Circle K, or only Cracker Barrel, but when it's both, we should put the "more gassy" brand in the Brand part.


Circle K is a convenience store brand, not gas, right? Likewise, Cracker Barrel is a restaurant, not a gas station, right? Shouldn't they be indexed accordingly, separately?
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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby PhantomSoul » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:50 am

I don't see how anything other than the most prevalent sign you see by the side of the road is relevant here. Just my $0.02 ;)
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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby Mattiedale » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:18 pm

Sorry, sometimes you got to hit me with a sledge hammer, but, is the name is all upper case, convert it or not?
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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby kentsmith9 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:52 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:1. Yes, that is my understanding and what I've written in the guidelines post.

Sorry, I missed that one... viewtopic.php?f=129&t=46426 :(

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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby kentsmith9 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:43 pm

AlanOfTheBerg wrote:
Mattiedale wrote:Sorry, sometimes you got to hit me with a sledge hammer, but, is the name is all upper case, convert it or not?

Follow the guidelines posted.

Actually I am not clear of the original question, so I will repost the question I thought was being asked:

* Are we changing the all caps name to title case, or do we leave it all caps to track it was an imported landmark?
* If converting to title case, do we want to do anything to track it was imported?
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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby jasonh300 » Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:44 pm

AndyPoms wrote:
CTGreybeard wrote:
AndyPoms wrote:BJ's, Costco, Stop & Shop all have branded gas stations, so be careful when editing the list...

Hmmm, at Costco (and maybe BJ's, too) you must be a member to buy gas. If we have Costco stations are we going to route someone, anyone, there? Maybe the name ought to be "Costco [Members Only]" or some such ...

I've gotten URs about them NOT being in the Gas Price System, so they should be on the map. I don't have any objections to a "Members Only" tag.


Sam's Club is also in the system and they're members only.
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Re: Converting gas station venues to landmarks [US]

Postby jasonh300 » Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:21 pm

Now that I'm seeing how it works, there's a lot of brands in the list that really aren't brands.

These are brands:

Alon
Amoco
Citgo
Conoco
Diamond Shamrock
Exxon
Fina
Phillips 66
Shell
Sunoco
Tenneco
Texaco
Union 76

These are not brands, but store/gas station names:
Brothers Food Mart
Discount Zone
Home Depot
Tonys Gasoline
...dozens of others.

I think we need another crack at that list.
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