Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clients

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby CBenson » Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:42 pm

orbitc wrote:Also, Colony Crossing is an actual street name, therefore, it should be Colony Crossing.

Its not Colony Crossing Street

I think of "Colony" as the name and "Crossing" as the road type.
Thus:
Colony Street - Colony St
Colony Drive - Colony Dr
Colony Boulevard - Colony Blvd
Colony Avenue - Colony Ave
Colony Road - Colony Rd
Colony Crossing - Colony Xing

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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby orbitc » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:39 pm

I think, in our case we wanted to keep Avenue as "Avenue" since it's a proper noun.
Ex: Avenue S is the actual street name. Therefore, we are NOT changing to Ave S
Also, Colony Crossing is an actual street name, therefore, it should be Colony Crossing.
More importantly, We never suggested to change general "Ave" abbreviations to "Avenue"
Ex: Main Ave still remains as Main Ave
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby AndyPoms » Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:59 am

CBenson wrote:So I just came across the first UR that I have seen that objects to the spelling of an abbreviation. The UR states: "xing is not how you spell crossing!'" The TTS here does speak "xing" as "crossing." So this objection is purely a display objection. Should we not use the abbreviation "xing" if users (or at least one user) objects to the spelling but the TTS is correct?

Xing is a standard MUTCD abbreviation, so I don't see why it shouldn't be used. http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/htm/2003/part1/part1a.htm
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby CBenson » Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:00 am

So I just came across the first UR that I have seen that objects to the spelling of an abbreviation. The UR states: "xing is not how you spell crossing!'" The TTS here does speak "xing" as "crossing." So this objection is purely a display objection. Should we not use the abbreviation "xing" if users (or at least one user) objects to the spelling but the TTS is correct?
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby kentsmith9 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:13 pm

sketch wrote:
Timbones wrote:
orbitc wrote:Would you put Avenue S as Ave 'S' or just leave it as Avenue 'S'?

Not sure. Is it "Avenue Ess" or "Avenue South"? Which is the noun? Does it really need to be abbreviated at all? Maybe it's time to get rid of them altogether. Devices have much higher resolutions these days, and there's plenty of space on the screen for full road names... [/rant]

I don't think so. Resolutions are getting higher but not all screens are getting bigger. I think you'll have a tough time justifying spelling out "Boulevard" or "Throughway" in any case.

I absolutely agree. I still have an iPhone and my screen is the same as it was 3 years ago. With a huge market share of smartphones I believe we still need to keep the text condensed as much as possible in the directional text areas.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby jasonh300 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:08 am

orbitc wrote:
Wajo357 wrote:Keep in mind current Brooklyn Ave names use Ave and not Avenue. Furthermore, I believe street signs say Ave not Avenue. Why fix it if it Ain't broke? My vote is to leave Ave as is and just deal with the s.


I think, I need to clarify this:

We are not changing anything. Especially, anything like Brooklyn Ave to Brooklyn Avenue.

My response was keeping Avenue same as it was when it's Avenue S.


I think he meant "the avenues in Brooklyn", rather than Brooklyn Avenue.

Meaning the street signs say "Ave S" rather than "Avenue S"
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby orbitc » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:41 am

Wajo357 wrote:Keep in mind current Brooklyn Ave names use Ave and not Avenue. Furthermore, I believe street signs say Ave not Avenue. Why fix it if it Ain't broke? My vote is to leave Ave as is and just deal with the s.


I think, I need to clarify this:

We are not changing anything. Especially, anything like Brooklyn Ave to Brooklyn Avenue.

My response was keeping Avenue same as it was when it's Avenue S.

GizmoGuy411 wrote:Regarding "Avenue S", I feel that since the word "Avenue" is not used as a suffix, and that it is used in this case more as a proper noun and not as an adjective, that it probably should remain spelled out, which would mean the name entry would be [Avenue 'S'], even though it implicitly implies that the road is an avenue.

As an example, there is a road near me called "West Course Road". I have it named in Waze as [West Course Rd] rather than [W Course Rd]. The word "West" in this case is part of the proper noun for the name of the road, and NOT a cardinal prefix adjective.


So, Brooklyn Ave stays as is. Once we have to go ahead from GizmoGuy411 we'll start changing those directional letters.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby Wajo357 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:17 am

orbitc wrote:
GizmoGuy411 wrote:Regarding "Avenue S", I feel that since the word "Avenue" is not used as a suffix, and that it is used in this case more as a proper noun and not as an adjective, that it probably should remain spelled out, which would mean the name entry would be [Avenue 'S'], even though it implicitly implies that the road is an avenue.


Agreed. I'll keep them as you suggested. Again, we'll wait for you before we do any changes.

Keep in mind current Brooklyn Ave names use Ave and not Avenue. Furthermore, I believe street signs say Ave not Avenue. Why fix it if it Ain't broke? My vote is to leave Ave as is and just deal with the s.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby orbitc » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:46 am

GizmoGuy411 wrote:Regarding "Avenue S", I feel that since the word "Avenue" is not used as a suffix, and that it is used in this case more as a proper noun and not as an adjective, that it probably should remain spelled out, which would mean the name entry would be [Avenue 'S'], even though it implicitly implies that the road is an avenue.


Agreed. I'll keep them as you suggested. Again, we'll wait for you before we do any changes.
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Re: Test of Text-to-Speech (TTS) Abbreviations in Waze Clien

Postby orbitc » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:42 am

GizmoGuy411 wrote:
Please wait until the results are in for all of these before changing any segment names.

They were entered into WME 2013-02-03 05:30 UTC, so the results may not be available until Monday. I'll will try to audio test them as soon as they are incorporated into the map updates.


OK. We'll wait for you.
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