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Re: Vehicle types/ Navigation types

Postby fvwazing » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:38 am

I can see REAL tracks made in the park, in the fields.

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(2 bicycle shortcuts out of 14-16 leaving my hood)
So... would you expect to map this, then? Google does not know these, of course, and if any of you advocates even TRIED using Google's routes on a bike you would see the ridicule of it all.

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(14min? More like 3 or 4 in RL)

I would say: first make Waze work the way it was promised 3 years ago - for cars.
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Re: Vehicle types/ Navigation types

Postby fvwazing » Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:33 pm

Cross-bikes??? As I made the image of the trail next to the stairs, I just missed the opportunity to catch a mother with toddler in a seat, she was too fast. And no cross-bike involved, no helmets even. And no navigation too.
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Re: Vehicle types/ Navigation types

Postby fvwazing » Tue Jul 30, 2013 2:20 pm

Gas-savings are an interesting idea but foremost it is a can of worms. Waze needs elevationdata for that (could be derived from gpsdata but with a huge errormargin) and a LOT of variables on the car. Cars with regenerative braking or hybrids have complete opposite characteristics from combustion engines, for instance. I know of not a single navigation that masters it.
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Re: Vehicle types/ Navigation types

Postby fvwazing » Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:21 pm

Emergency response vehicles in most of the developed world use special gear which costs a ton and uses handcrafted maps (check http://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/news.php?news=2222 for instance) and they are never going to give that up, for liability alone.

But Malaysia? Indonesia? Once the map has high quality for normal traffic a lot could be done, if a squad of ambulancedrivers or a firebrigade pick it up. I feel hesitant about putting another burden on Waze-staff for managing this and hope that an Emergency-Response-Vehicle-mode would create such weird routing at places that any driver trying it will do so only once. Or maybe the local champs should distribute such tokens? They are better situated for research on applicants.

Oh, and ERV are not just another mood. For this to work it also requires a different router. A special webpage for just tracking the different ERV's in a single city is also needed, so that dispatchers can see their vehicles located in real time. To get located by the dispatcher but not by the general public needs a client that sends its location in two different accuracies; and it would be nice if the ERV would show different on the map/get different routing as soon as the horn and lights are on ;`) ETA? 2023 at earliest.
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Re: Vehicle types/ Navigation types

Postby fvwazing » Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:16 am

Riamus wrote:Champs or high level editors have been commenting on it. That along with the time based turn restrictions are vehicle restrictions.

Or if you're asking about pedestrians and bicycles, Waze staff mentioned it in their post about the Google acquisition.


Yes, the google-acquisition. In their euphoria, they would have announced support for rollerskates, horsecarts, dogsleds, elephant rides, toboggan and rickshaws if they had thought of it.

For pedestrians and bicycles you need 3-4 times the amount of roads (in cities, at least). All that trouble for an additional 1-2% of users? Not in a long time, not as long as growth rates are in the double figures.
Expect vehicletypes that use a subset of the current roadnetwork, not a superset.
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Re: Vehicle types/ Navigation types

Postby fvwazing » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:30 pm

ictag wrote:But my guess is that may have been the original reason for waze but that it's being increasingly used by pedestrians and cyclists because of the the cool new Facebook features. Particularly in Europe.


Alas, we will find them in the traffic accident statistics, like these:

https://www.google.nl/search?q=pedestri ... 1&ie=UTF-8
https://www.google.nl/search?q=pedestri ... t&safe=off

Waze will guide you into the fastest traffic BY DESIGN. Add to that a lowered level of awareness, induced by Facebook-usage...
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Re: Vehicle types/ Navigation types

Postby fvwazing » Sat Oct 19, 2013 10:19 pm

Does it? I am told it shows your friends going to the same destination, in the final stages of their trip.
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Postby fvwazing » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:01 am

Waze is not for bicycling, and it will never be for bicycling. Didn't you read one bit of the comments in this thread?
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Postby fvwazing » Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:59 pm

"Not soon" then?. Remember, "soon" can mean "not even in four years". And yes, in the hype of the google adventure many things were promised, even bicycles. But do not hold your breath... we will be lucky if trucks, cabs and more are actually supported before this thread is one year old.

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Aw sh*t, this thread IS one year old.
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Postby fvwazing » Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:08 pm

Barneymiller wrote:I left the word respect out of my comment


Ah, and I thought you were asking for another Helloween-theme!
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