Restrictions, restrictions, restrictions: page draft

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Re: Restrictions, restrictions, restrictions: page draft

Postby sketch » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:52 pm

I'm not either... yet! ;)

I'm just thinking about the way Wikipedia does it as an example. Photos generally have to be your own work or otherwise proven to be public domain, something like that. No, we're not Wikipedia of course, but it can't hurt to be safe.
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Re: Restrictions, restrictions, restrictions: page draft

Postby kentsmith9 » Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:18 am

Any photograph not explicitly given to public domain is the copyright of the photographer. Therefore only if Waze has permission to use images from street view can we use clips from it. So we need to ask Waze the question.

Images just pulled from the web are not public domain. I have many of my personal photos appearing in Google image searches from people copying my images from Flickr even though they are my copyright. I don't have enough money to sue them all. :evil:
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Restrictions, restrictions, restrictions: page draft

Postby sketch » Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:24 am

Well, the images are taken from the street view functionality in the beta editor. I would support holding off on their inclusion until the feature is released to the standard editor. I can't imagine posting screenshots of our editor in our user documentation would be a problem. Plenty of Bing aerials in the wiki.
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Re: Restrictions, restrictions, restrictions: page draft

Postby kentsmith9 » Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:27 am

sketch wrote:I can't imagine posting screenshots of our editor in our user documentation would be a problem. Plenty of Bing aerials in the wiki.

The Bing aerials are already licensed to Waze, so they are not a problem. We are presuming with good faith that the Streetview images are also being licensed to Waze, but as you said, until it is in the released editor, we might be wrong that the license agreements are all signed and complete. I agree to hold off putting the street view images in the wiki until the editor is released with the street view link from Waze.
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Re: Restrictions, restrictions, restrictions: page draft

Postby sketch » Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:24 am

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sketch wrote:I can't imagine posting screenshots of our editor in our user documentation would be a problem. Plenty of Bing aerials in the wiki.

The Bing aerials are already licensed to Waze, so they are not a problem. We are presuming with good faith that the Streetview images are also being licensed to Waze, but as you said, until it is in the released editor, we might be wrong that the license agreements are all signed and complete. I agree to hold off putting the street view images in the wiki until the editor is released with the street view link from Waze.

I'm pretty confident that Waze wouldn't bother programming a probably somewhat difficult-to-program feature into the editor at all if they didn't have permission. And I doubt they'd be allowed to let any of the editors use them in that case, not even the beta test group. If they weren't licensed to Waze, we couldn't use them to edit.
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Re: Restrictions, restrictions, restrictions: page draft

Postby kentsmith9 » Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:17 am

sketch wrote:And I doubt they'd be allowed to let any of the editors use them in that case, not even the beta test group. If they weren't licensed to Waze, we couldn't use them to edit.

In all likelihood you are probably correct. However in my real life I work a lot with our legal team and I have seen some pretty amazing things slip by pretty far without someone confirming the long debated agreement that both parties intended to sign, actually got signed. :oops:
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Re: Restrictions, restrictions, restrictions: page draft

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:10 am

We're going to need Restrictions page pretty much done this week.
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Re: Restrictions, restrictions, restrictions: page draft

Postby kentsmith9 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:36 pm

Speaking of contracts, I wonder if the Waze contract transition from Bing to Google aerials will force all Wiki images to need to be updated. :shock: :?:

I will send along that question.
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Re: Restrictions, restrictions, restrictions: page draft

Postby AlanOfTheBerg » Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:25 pm

kentsmith9 wrote:I will send along that question.

Better to be told later or at least update them slowly over time....
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Re: Restrictions, restrictions, restrictions: page draft

Postby kentsmith9 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:34 am

Already sent. :(

I really do not think we have to do anything. The images were used at a time they were permitted. If I sent out brochures that used an image I had licensed for one year, I don't have to recall those brochures with those images, I just cannot create new documents with them.

Therefore I presume we will just start using the Google images for screen shots as needed for new articles and references.
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