Gerald_Snyman wrote:Country : South Africa
Types: Truck 18 Wheeler
Some user said why do Waze have to care about the input of truck drivers, because they are always on the road. Well, I'm a truck driver, driving mostly only local (I'm home every night) and sometimes I drive long distance (where I'm obviously not home). Waze is a wonderful app, and can help reduce the truck related accidents. I just don't understand why cars hate trucks. When you have Waze to help the cars warn about slow trucks, and Waze help trucks to find routes that will be easier for them, and avoid to unnecessarily slow down speedy traffic. Face it, cars need trucks. We carry the food the cars need. It is faster in the shops by truck, than by train. Please, bear with trucks, and help with ideas to make Waze work for us all
In SA we have a compulsory STOP for the truck over 5 metric ton Gross Vehicle Mass (GVM). Before that stop sign is a dedicated lane for the struck. Usually a stead bed is at that stop, for in case the truck fails to stop. It would be great to have a COMPULSORY STOP & STEAD BED notification in TRUCK MODE.
Some WEIGH BRIDGE is 24 hours open and require trucks to always enter the primary weigh bridge, to determine if the truck needs to be pulled over for an official weight. Thus, it would be nice if Waze can tell the driver to keep onto the bridge lane.
While in truck mode, Waze build statistics for trucks, the same as with cars, with the exception, that Waze can warn speeding traffic of a slow vehicle ahead, instead of the truck case a traffic jam in Waze. Waze can navigate trucks on routes with less hills. A long drive time on a segment can be translated as lots of hills. Thus, it may be possible to find a 10 km detour, which should be faster than the slow short route with steep hills.
When a truck stops on a long segment, Waze should ask the driver if it's a place to stop and rest. If yes, then mark a 50 meter radius. Over time, when a driver gets tired, then he can ask Waze where the nearest stop spot is. As a driver, at night, I often overshoot a place to pull over, and I can not just stop a 56 ton vehicle in 30 meter, then reverse ... I want Waze to add that as an intermediate stop. It should help reduce drivers falling asleep.
Gerald_Snyman wrote:The slowing down part, I understand, but here in SA cars just downright hate trucks. oh, even if you say you're a trucker, then immediately you loose whatever status you had, and be a dummy... *sigh*
krikketdoug wrote:Which is why I've advocated for a "Alternative truck" category. You have 18 wheelers, and you have smaller box-trucks... I don't expect Waze to recognize all the differences, particularly when it comes to gross vehicle weight.
I'd love to see mandatory rest stops, but I don't think that's reasonable...
krikketdoug wrote:Gerald_Snyman wrote:Some WEIGH BRIDGE is 24 hours open and require trucks to always enter the primary weigh bridge, to determine if the truck needs to be pulled over for an official weight. Thus, it would be nice if Waze can tell the driver to keep onto the bridge lane.
Agreed! Now if we can get Weigh station/bridge added as a landmark...
krikketdoug wrote:Gerald_Snyman wrote:Waze can navigate trucks on routes with less hills.
All ready in the works, if I understand correctly.
krikketdoug wrote:Gerald_Snyman wrote:When a truck stops on a long segment, Waze should ask the driver if it's a place to stop and rest. If yes, then mark a 50 meter radius.
If a truck driver doesn't shut off waze when making long distance trips. I'd ask why not. Or are all trips long-distance with no stops at red lights?
but, as for me, I simply keep Waze on (or actually my previous navigator which works according to my personal drive statistics), to keep track of my ETA. When I see I've gained 10 minutes on my drive, then I know I can rest for that time, without loosing my ETA. When I make an unplanned stop, then I need to work to reach my ETA again. I simply don't turn off my navigator(s), because of the downside of Waze being an online route planner. In the middle of nowhere, when I turn off Waze, I need to wait for data signals again to select my destination again. When I do pull over to sleep, I turn everything off. But for any stop less than 1 hour, I keep everything on... I know I sound like we are very tight on ETA, which is not the case. I've made ETA something to keep me concentrating on, otherwise, driving becomes hopelessly boring and falling asleep while driving becomes all the more a greater risk. All experienced drivers will tell you that you feel wide awake right now, 5 seconds later you are fast asleep, simply skipping the part of feeling drowsy. Please, I ask of you to understand the importance of finding safe places to stop and rest in the country side / outback / the middle of nowhere...
Oh yeah, what I forgot, in SA trucks have an upper max speed of 80 km/h. Everywhere in the country (freeway included), it's illegal for a truck to exceed 80 km/h (I think it's 50 mph), in most towns the speed limit is 40 km/h. Then also, any dangerous goods vehicle (even a pickup truck / bakkie / light delivery vehicle [LDV]) may not exceed 80 km/h. I know they are in the minority of being almost non-existent, but a simple decision in car mode to set the maximum speed the user wants to drive, will help already a great deal with ETA.
Right now, if Waze can add that simple feature of the user decides what the maximum speed he wants to drive, will help all vehicle types, although car type is the only available right now. My longest route is 1600 km (1k miles), and the difference between 80 & 120 km/h completely mess up my ETA. Even on a 500 km distance, a car do that in 5 hours, an 18 wheeler does that in 8-9 hours... I'm so used to driving slow, that even with my car I drive 80-100 km/h. I wish to have a setting for max speed in Waze...
The solution is fairly simple, Waze only need to check each segment's speed and if greater than user-max-speed then limit the segment speed accordingly. Or take the sum of all the segment distances that exceed user-max-speed, and calculate ETA according to user-max-speed, then add to the sum of ETA of all slow segments.
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